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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter  | Sknote new toy "GTS-39"
Thought fellas you would be interested in this: GTS-39 Limiting Tube Compressor
GTS-39 has been developed by measuring and testing a very old limiting tube compressor with a great vintage sound.
Gotta looooooooove these Vintage plugins.
Cheers!
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#2 | | Gear addict
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Very cool, but I wanna hear it.
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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Working on first _side-by-side_ sound examples. Fine-tuning and waiting for "go on" from the "lab"  | |
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#4 | | Gear maniac
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Looks nice! Format?
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by markisha  Looks nice! Format? | Starts Win VST, then Mac and Win 64
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Originally Posted by quintosardo Starts Win VST, then Mac and Win 64 | Simply looking forward!!
Gracias Quito!!!
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| GTS-39 has been developed by measuring and testing a very old limiting tube compressor
OK Quinto: Time to come clean. Which very old limiting tube compressor?
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Originally Posted by bitman GTS-39 has been developed by measuring and testing a very old limiting tube compressor
OK Quinto: Time to come clean. Which very old limiting tube compressor?
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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still no mac versions in general?
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by quintosardo G@ts s@39 | Excellent.  | |
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9th March 2011
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Originally Posted by quintosardo Working on first _side-by-side_ sound examples. Fine-tuning and waiting for "go on" from the "lab" | i'm really curious as to what kind of method was used in the modelling, if at all possible to go a bit into the process. really looking forward to the AU version of this.
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Interesting...
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Originally Posted by retractablezing i'm really curious as to what kind of method was used in the modelling, if at all possible to go a bit into the process. really looking forward to the AU version of this. | It has been developed starting from a physical model of the tube electronics (original schematics).
Then several series of test signals are run through the hardware, and the output is recorded. The test signals are created to show main behaviours of the device with common settings or to extreme conditions.
The original model is fine tuned to behave like the hw with test signals.
Next step: the sound. The ear is lots more sensible than any signal comparation.
Significative sound samples (instruments, mixes) are run through the model while it is fine tuned, with lots of listening tests, until the model sounds a bit more like hardware than the hardware. Then a step back  | |
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Originally Posted by quintosardo It has been developed starting from a physical model of the tube electronics (original schematics).
Then several series of test signals are run through the hardware, and the output is recorded. The test signals are created to show main behaviours of the device with common settings or to extreme conditions.
The original model is fine tuned to behave like the hw with test signals.
Next step: the sound. The ear is lots more sensible than any signal comparation.
Significative sound samples (instruments, mixes) are run through the model while it is fine tuned, with lots of listening tests, until the model sounds a bit more like hardware than the hardware. Then a step back | i quite like the notion that it'll "sound more like the hardware than the hardware itself". really looking forward to this. cheers.
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#16 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by retractablezing i quite like the notion that it'll "sound more like the hardware than the hardware itself". | "Then a step back" 
Graham
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Originally Posted by Grahamdwc "Then a step back"
Graham | hopefully he just means a coffee break.
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Originally Posted by retractablezing hopefully he just means a coffee break. | Nice
Graham
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Originally Posted by Grahamdwc Nice
Graham | seriously though, i hope this is an harmonic overdose. i'm really tired of "vintage" plugins that sound like little or nothing at all, other than the typical gain bump. very high hopes for this one.
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Originally Posted by miro still no mac versions in general? | Maybe they have two different teams - one working on new plugins and one working on the ports. But yeah, it's a little frustrating to me that they announced the mac versions of the other plugins before this and they still aren't released. Ten bucks is ten bucks, though  | |
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#21 | | Lives for gear
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Oh, Mac porting is going on and no delay because of new products at all!
GTS-39 was in the pipeline and is coming out in its first version, while my friends are struggling with MacOS
These are the first portings, anyway, this is why they go on slowly.
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by retractablezing hopefully he just means a coffee break. |
No, I meant that after one million listening tests and fine tuning moves you learn some characteristics from the original one and are tempted to enhance these. So, like reverb and hi freqs gain, when you think you have done, go a small step back | |
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Originally Posted by retractablezing seriously though, i hope this is an harmonic overdose. i'm really tired of "vintage" plugins that sound like little or nothing at all, other than the typical gain bump. very high hopes for this one. | Oh, yes, this actually CHANGES what you feed in. Radically | |
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will look further into this
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I'm happy to present the first public short audio demo for this toy 
It is a bassdrum loop through the limiter at extreme settings (20dB compression, fast release).
This is the dry sample (a bassdrum mic from a multimic drum recording): BassDrum_Dry
This file contains the same file processed through both the "ancient" one and the "contemporary" one: BassDrum_Extreme_Limiting
Settings are not exactly the same, so one is a little bit drier, but the example is interesting, I'm sure.
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#26 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by quintosardo I'm happy to present the first public short audio demo for this toy
It is a bassdrum loop through the limiter at extreme settings (20dB compression, fast release).
This is the dry sample (a bassdrum mic from a multimic drum recording): BassDrum_Dry
This file contains the same file processed through both the "ancient" one and the "contemporary" one: BassDrum_Extreme_Limiting
Settings are not exactly the same, so one is a little bit drier, but the example is interesting, I'm sure. | Hi Quinto, i cant get the dry sample to play.
Graham
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#27 | | Lives for gear
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Ops, it was a 32bit file. Replaced it, now you can get the 16bit file from the same link | |
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13th March 2011
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#28 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by quintosardo Ops, it was a 32bit file. Replaced it, now you can get the 16bit file from the same link | Yeah, that done it, cheers. thumbsup
Graham
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14th March 2011
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#29 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by quintosardo I'm happy to present the first public short audio demo for this toy
It is a bassdrum loop through the limiter at extreme settings (20dB compression, fast release).
This is the dry sample (a bassdrum mic from a multimic drum recording): BassDrum_Dry
This file contains the same file processed through both the "ancient" one and the "contemporary" one: BassDrum_Extreme_Limiting
Settings are not exactly the same, so one is a little bit drier, but the example is interesting, I'm sure. | Hey, this sounds great. There is a nice tone into it !
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14th March 2011
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#30 | | Lives for gear
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Thank you K-Slash, I'm seriously impressed myself, ah ah!
Which one is HW?
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