New Tape Emulation - "Roundtone"

[TranscendingM]

I meant for the update, just to make sure we're on the same page, was it emailed yet?

[jeremy.c.]

Yes, Win64 VST was emailed.

In Cubase 32bit on windows 7 (using the 32bit Roundtone) there is a bug with the FX parameters. I click them on and they work, but when I click them off the effect turns off but the ON light stays lit. SO I can't tell by looking if it's actually on or off once I've clicked it. Just a head's up.

[yllet]

As much as I would like I just can't seem to fall in love with Roundtone (new and old). For tape/compression stuff and tone shaping I'm digging the ubk-1 and tb_reelbus (as well as nebula some time). Roundtone just can't compete with those imo...

Plz help me out here, I really wanna dig this plug (The new dolby thingy seems cool, but I havent found any use for it yet)

I'm well aware of that Roundtone is just another color for my "mixing palette", but right now I don't see it fit :/

/Jon

[ciggi]

awesome update quinto!! - i can automate the new parameters in logic 8 on 10.5.8 but i dont see it in my automationview. I see the drawn or written data but no name or description what i automate all the old parameters from v2 are shown with a name

[Babaluma]

Originally Posted by yllet

As much as I would like I just can't seem to fall in love with Roundtone (new and old). For tape/compression stuff and tone shaping I'm digging the ubk-1 and tb_reelbus (as well as nebula some time). Roundtone just can't compete with those imo...

Plz help me out here, I really wanna dig this plug (The new dolby thingy seems cool, but I havent found any use for it yet)

I'm well aware of that Roundtone is just another color for my "mixing palette", but right now I don't see it fit :/

/Jon

that's interesting because i feel exactly the same about tb_reelbus, but love roundtone!

[lobsterinn]

I'm really loving this as a tape delay. The new functions are deep.

As far as subtle tape simulation, I am really overwhelmed by the layout. I am going to have to build my own preset starting points to really get much practical use out of it. I tend to avoid really tweak-intensive plugs when I'm mixing as I'm prone to getting sucked down rabbit holes.

[illacov]

Had Roundtone V3 on a mix today, I had tons of printed stems from outboard gear going to the drum buss and decided f** it I'm going to put a tape sim over the drums to give them some grit.

HOLY SH*T

V3 on the drum buss post compression is EEEEVIL.

I had it on 15 ips Hard Compressed with the B Control at 40 to 50%.

Action was 9 o clock, Emphasis was all the way to 100%. I left the mix at 100%. The oversampling is nice.

So fluid and big, it sounds great.

Love it!

Still have to break it out on a start to finish session.

Should be awesome!

Peace
Illumination

[cpie]

Thanks very much for the great update...very surprised and happy with the new features - just exploring them right now - so far VERY nice

[kingocounty]

Originally Posted by yllet

As much as I would like I just can't seem to fall in love with Roundtone (new and old). For tape/compression stuff and tone shaping I'm digging the ubk-1 and tb_reelbus (as well as nebula some time). Roundtone just can't compete with those imo...

Plz help me out here, I really wanna dig this plug (The new dolby thingy seems cool, but I havent found any use for it yet)

I'm well aware of that Roundtone is just another color for my "mixing palette", but right now I don't see it fit :/

/Jon

For me, the new bright formula (speed at full, action at 1/2 and emphasis at 0) with b-exp at about 1/3 and a bit of wow and tape noise sounds much more tape-like than the rest of them, squashing transients in a very organic manner and giving everything a great sense of movement. I find it a little too much to use it on tracks and the two buss at the same time, but I'm liking it a lot on tracks and using Totape2 on the master. It doesn't sound modern at all and I mean that as a big compliment.

[Empty Planet]

Totally agree, Illicov.

Working flawlessly here on Reaper in Win7 64-bit.

Spectacular work, Quinto.

Many thanks.

[yllet]

Originally Posted by kingocounty

For me, the new bright formula (speed at full, action at 1/2 and emphasis at 0) with b-exp at about 1/3 and a bit of wow and tape noise sounds much more tape-like than the rest of them, squashing transients in a very organic manner and giving everything a great sense of movement. I find it a little too much to use it on tracks and the two buss at the same time, but I'm liking it a lot on tracks and using Totape2 on the master. It doesn't sound modern at all and I mean that as a big compliment.

Thanks m8, gonna try that later tonight.

All the best from Sweden

/Jon

[yllet]

Bug report.

Cpu: i5 2500+, 8gb ram
Windows 7, 64 - Reaper 32, Roundtone 3.0 32bit

* Sometimes the sound mutes (on a hit from a snare drum for instance)
* Sometime the knobs dissapear
* Sometime noice goes crazy/distorts like hell.

I don't have any other issues with other plugins what so ever.

Just wanned to let you know.

/Jon

[richinmusic]

Originally Posted by yllet

Bug report.

Cpu: i5 2500+, 8gb ram
Windows 7, 64 - Reaper 32, Roundtone 3.0 32bit

* Sometimes the sound mutes (on a hit from a snare drum for instance)
* Sometime the knobs dissapear
* Sometime noice goes crazy/distorts like hell.

I don't have any other issues with other plugins what so ever.

Just wanned to let you know.

/Jon

I have a similar set-up to yours, and even though you have 8 GB's RAM, you are using Reaper 32bit so you may be running out of RAM in your projects. Have you tried this in Reaper 64bit with Roundtone 64bit as well?

[slackstallion]

Quinto hasnt chimed in for a few days. Assuming he is quickly fixing reported bugs for a v3.2 release shortly?

[mfx]

Hi Quinto

Know you've been busy regarding the mail outs and other business.

When can we expect an update regarding the GUI bug in Windows7 x64 please.

Thanks

M

[quintosardo]

Working on that!
You'll be able to download it from the same last link

[mfx]

Originally Posted by quintosardo

Working on that!
You'll be able to download it from the same last link

Ok thanks and look forward to it

[richinmusic]

I am using Roundtone 64bit in Reaper 64bit (Windows 7 Pro 64bit 8GB's ram) and have had zero GUI issues. I noticed that the post about the issue is using the 32bit Roundtone. Have you tried the 64bit version?

[mfx]

Originally Posted by richinmusic

I am using Roundtone 64bit in Reaper 64bit (Windows 7 Pro 64bit 8GB's ram) and have had zero GUI issues. I noticed that the post about the issue is using the 32bit Roundtone. Have you tried the 64bit version?

Download again from my email link.

Deleted all signs of roundtone and roundtone_v3 from my pc (except the new files of course).

Dropped the 64bit file in.

This resolved the disappearing GUI issue.

All good in the Standalone mode.

This is 64bit only not tried or tested the 32 bit.

Everything works fine in Standalone except when changing the Tape Mode a/b/c/d the new functions; B-EXP, WOW, FLANGE, DELAY,FBK, NOISE are disabled, the knobs reset to the zero position.

[Jolly Jimmy]

Originally Posted by mfx

Everything works fine in Standalone except when changing the Tape Mode a/b/c/d the new functions; B-EXP, WOW, FLANGE, DELAY,FBK, NOISE are disabled, the knobs reset to the zero position.

Same here with the Mac AU.

[yllet]

Originally Posted by richinmusic

I have a similar set-up to yours, and even though you have 8 GB's RAM, you are using Reaper 32bit so you may be running out of RAM in your projects. Have you tried this in Reaper 64bit with Roundtone 64bit as well?

Guess i could try the 64bit version (with reaper 64) as well. But what about all my 32bit plugins then? :( (Last time i check the 32/64 bridge in reaper wasnt very good)

/Jon

[valjean24601]

Originally Posted by mfx

Everything works fine in Standalone except when changing the Tape Mode a/b/c/d the new functions; B-EXP, WOW, FLANGE, DELAY,FBK, NOISE are disabled, the knobs reset to the zero position.

Yeah I've reported this issue as well. I think the beta testers need to ask themselves some serious questions on on a fundamental flaw like this managed to slip through the net undetected.

Cheers, Mark.

[quintosardo]

It is a statistical law. Why every bug is so hard to reproduce here? Because here is where we said "it works!"...
Found, don't waste your time with experiments, replacing with 3.0.1!

In the meanwhile, adding some small things (so that a replacement is a pleasure, not only annoying)

[Home Studio 87]

same link that you send for the 3.01 ?

[Babaluma]

Originally Posted by valjean24601

I think the beta testers need to ask themselves some serious questions blah blah blah blah

They are working FOR FREE and on their own time to help an amazing person release an amazing plugin at an incredibly low price. They are not the ones who need to be asking themselves some serious questions...

[valjean24601]

Originally Posted by Babaluma

They are working FOR FREE and on their own time to help an amazing person release an amazing plugin at an incredibly low price. They are not the ones who need to be asking themselves some serious questions...

I beta tested grasso for Quinto and have done the same for other companies. The whole point of beta testing is to help iron out the problems. Now, considering the fact that several people on this thread alone have mentioned experiencing the same problem I find it hard to believe that no-one managed to replicate the issues during the beta testing considering that the problems arise when using one of the most basic functions of the plugin! Price doesn't come into the equation, Quinto appears to be a perfectionist and i'm sure it upsets him as much as anyone when people pay for his products (now matter how inexpensive they are) and they encounter problems.

I'm not having a go at Quinto at all, the man does amazing work and has produced some of my favourite plugins to date, I'm merely stating my disbelief at how these things weren't noticed first time around. If you can't see that, or if you were one of the beta testers and have taken offence at my comments then that's up to yourself.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting these issues resolved so that an already fantastic plugin can become even better!

Cheers, Mark.

[richinmusic]

Originally Posted by yllet

Guess i could try the 64bit version (with reaper 64) as well. But what about all my 32bit plugins then? :( (Last time i check the 32/64 bridge in reaper wasnt very good)

/Jon

I have never had any problems bridging plugins in reaper. I am pretty much exclusively using Reaper 64bit, and I still have quite a few 32bit plugins. Reaper has always handled them better than any other DAW, in my experience. I haven't fired up Reaper 32bit in MONTHS.Where are you hearing these things? And why not just try it?

[richinmusic]

Bad bad beta testers. Bad. Shame on you.

Jeez y'all.
It is entirely possible that the testers didn't reproduce the problems. I know so because I tested the last 2 versions of the plugin for Quinto and experienced zero problems. And I seem to have the system that many of the beta tests I do have more problems than other testers. And I used the Roundtone betas on some large and complicated projects, and it performed beautifully. So I guess I apologize in behalf of all of the inadequate beta testers that just couldn't make it break. I tried really hard and it just worked well for me. Ooops.

[illacov]

I had 0 problems with the beta.

Works fine.

Me thinks that when the new version was compiled there may have been a bug that crept into place.

The bug only effects the bottom row of knobs apparently, which as it so happens are the newest features so something appears to have gummed up the works down thar.

I get an issue periodically where the B Wow or the Flange buttons stay orange even when I'm trying to bypass them.

However this didn't happen in the beta. So this problem didn't slip by anyone, it really is a surprise for all of us indeed.

I've noticed it happens when I have Sknote Plugs all on the same track.

My remedy is usually to change the mode from standalone to machine A and then back, it normally goes away after a while though.

I normally just turn the effects down to 0.

And eventually it turns off.

Too busy enjoying the good sounds to make a big fuss, it doesn't kill my workflow its just an annoyance for me.

Still re learning Roundtone and finding its much more flexible than thought before but even better with the new improvements.

I like Speed at 0, Action at 50%, EMPH at 0. B at 30%. For busses and just turn Speed up to 100% and Action down to 10% for tracks.

Peace
Illumination

[mfx]

Can't see any reason for aiming at Beta testers, you can not cover every angle and possible combination. That's technology.

Looking forward to 3.0.1.

Always happy to beta help

*creep*