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15th March 2012
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Massey is more agresive imho
So for lighter amounts of saturation would you say it's somewhat comparable?

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So for lighter amounts of saturation would you say it's somewhat comparable?

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IMO, they are not similar tools at all. Massey is kinda more distortion unit. Roundtone, well rounds things, make them smoother
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IMO, they are not similar tools at all. Massey is kinda more distortion unit. Roundtone, well rounds things, make them smoother
Thanks for the tip. Makes sense. Wish I could still use Tape Head with Studio One. I used to be able to with the free AU Massey had offered, but it's only 32bit, and I've since moved on to 64bit.
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Quinto,

I just sat down to start work on a mix using roundtone and noticed something odd. When I load up a single instance of roundtone I set it to 'standalone' and browse through the preset algorithms the speed, action and emphasis controls remain in the same positions even though I can hear the differences of the presets taking place. I'm almost certain that when I first purchased the plugin these parameters changed when I was browsing the presets?

Then I also tried setting the machine mode to 'machine A' and when I loaded a preset all the parameters moved to their maximum setting and everytime I load a different preset they remain in that position but this time the sound doesn't change?

I'm using logic and running in 32bit mode and i'm a bit baffled at this to be honest e

Hopefully you can shed some light for me.

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Oh, this is new

I'll check it soon tomorrow morning (past midnight here...) and report.

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Thanks Quinto, there's no panic anyway, I'm just fooling about here tonight myself. I've also noticed that when I assign several channels to the same tape machine the control over all the instances doesn't begin until a signal actually passes through the plugins. This isn't a big deal obviously but if it hasn't been noted here before it might come in handy for some users on Logic to know about it.

I'll continue working with it tonight to see if I notice anything else.

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Thanks Quinto, there's no panic anyway, I'm just fooling about here tonight myself. I've also noticed that when I assign several channels to the same tape machine the control over all the instances doesn't begin until a signal actually passes through the plugins. This isn't a big deal obviously but if it hasn't been noted here before it might come in handy for some users on Logic to know about it.

I'll continue working with it tonight to see if I notice anything else.

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Oh, ok.
Some hosts completely freeze the plugins when the processing isn't needed, e.g. when the track isn't playing. So, the internal values aren't updated until you press play. But the settings are retained and shared according to the interconnections, so they work well even though the animation isn't there.
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Oh, this is new

I'll check it soon tomorrow morning (past midnight here...) and report.

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True, very true...you can see in other threads, other dev's testing their software have the same nightmarish problems with logic
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Yes, it's great, because a very picky host is useful for testing, until it respects the original specs.
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Just bought this for mastering duties, hope it can be very subtle!
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Yes, using it on every master.

Sending it now...
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Grazie quintosardo!

Received the plugin and will try it out on a few projects over the next few days.
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I was sitting next to my wife and we were both on the internet with our laptops.

I played drums dry for myself and nothing happened.
Then I played drums tape and my wife who was still staring into her web site started bobbing her head to the beat.

"You like that do ya?" I said.
"Uh hu"

Ok.

I played the dry one without her knowing what was up

Nothing....

I played the tape version.

A smile and a head bob.

That's the best endorsement I know of.
When the girls like it you win.

Bought it.

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This should be in an ad....
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Is it out already?
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Do you mean v.3? Still hidden...
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Do you mean v.3? Still hidden...
Yeah.. :D Quite looking forward to it.. :D
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any news on v3.0? happy to beta test it right now!
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any news on v3.0? happy to beta test it right now!
Get in the queue, gracia
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yeah i've been enjoying it a lot the last few weeks, used it on a few mastering projects, have found some settings that get it really mild (it's normally too heavy for a whole mix), but would love to try the new features as I've heard it should be easier to dial in more subtle settings. usually have it set 30ips hard, -6dB input and +6dB output, speed 20, action 10, emphasis 100.

one niggle i have with v2 is that the wet/dry knob has completely different volumes on wet or dry. would be nice if it was always balanced at the same volume.

but overall the sound is very nice, works really well for some things, not so well for others. have been over-hyping the high end before hitting it to counteract the high end rolloff, but understand that this also will be more controllable in the new version.

can't wait for it!
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What could be said about a comparison between Roundtone and Kramer Master Tape? I own Kramer Tape, love it, and I'm wondering if owning Roundtone would be redundant, totally different, or perhaps complimentary.

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What could be said about a comparison between Roundtone and Kramer Master Tape? I own Kramer Tape, love it, and I'm wondering if owning Roundtone would be redundant, totally different, or perhaps complimentary.

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Complimentary. They sound quite different. Roundtone seems to be darker and mellower, where Kramer seems more hyped. Kramer is a model of one specific machine too.

Roundtone is pretty good as is, but apparently there are improvements coming soon.
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Yes, a LOT of things in the new v.3

(including some bright modes)
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What could be said about a comparison between Roundtone and Kramer Master Tape? I own Kramer Tape, love it, and I'm wondering if owning Roundtone would be redundant, totally different, or perhaps complimentary.

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Have both and quite different in the sounds and I believe what's going on under the hood. Saying that v3 is much anticipated asRoundtone can sound a little heavy...not a major negative, especially as it's being addressed

Roundtone v3 and StripBusv2 update in the pipline, cant wait.
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I have to say that as a guy who tracks with equipment that leaves a very obvious fingerprint, I tend to lean toward the brighter tape emus for stuff that I track and the darker ones for stuff I don't track.

Roundtone is great as it is for stuff that's tracked on shrill microphones that need some tapering.

But for microphones and chains that are already in the darker spectrum, it can be a bit too much. Hence my push for cleaner tape modes. I think Quinto nailed the darker and mellower formulas. I just need the cleaner ones and I'm set.

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And here is a teaser about the new one



Roundtone v.3 is going to cost 29.99$, but it is a free update for all users existing before the official release

Going to beta soon...

Here is the meaning of the new parameters:

- B exp is that "B type noise reduction expander". Used as a dynamic enhancer on the high frequencies. Its small metering bas shows the amount of expansion introduced
- Wow stands for wow and flutter. It has several modes (small menu)
- Mono to mono or stereo to stereo flanging can be achieved by mixing wowed signal and dry one (mix knob). Flange control is for left-right flanging. Very useful for widening effects
- Delay, well, is a feedback around the emulation. Tape delay through the set tape emulation Several modes available through the small menu, it should cover all the main mixing and effects dues
- Noise. Finally the noise. With the option for dynamic mode (like in Strip). Dynamic noise is active only under a signal, it is silenced when the input level goes down. This is ti get its enhancing "dithering" effect without that trivial constant background hiss, so annoying if you put some compression after the tape.

The original modes are untouched (I love and use them everyday), some new modes are added, mainly with requested brighter sound.
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Nice! Will get this for sure :-)
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Looking forward to this release Quinto. By the description it sounds like it's going to be therewith the higher frequencies Like the auto silencing with the noise, good idea.
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