1st December 2010
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#1 | | Gear interested
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Thread Starter | new 2 x 16 channel ADDA converter A16 MK-II
Hi guys,
some may still know the good old A16 ultra from Sonic Core (Creamware).
I'm proud to announce that it has a worthy successor now: A16 MK-II...new are two TFT displays, MADI/ADAT interfaces and some other real nice features, and the price is very hot too ;-)
Pls take a look on Ferrofish advanced audio applications for more info.
Nice comments & questions welcome!  
Greets,
Juergen / Ferrofish
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1st December 2010
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#2 | | Moderator
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Wow... great price!
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1st December 2010
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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thumbsupKiller price!!!
are those 16 in 16 out simultaneous?
No software for MAC?
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16 in 16 out are simultaneous
Last edited by G-Spot; 1st December 2010 at 09:01 PM..
Reason: Checked manual
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1st December 2010
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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In January I'm buying new converters... does Ferrofish has a supplier in Berlin?
I would like to do a test between these and the SSL Alpha Link... (I can't afford the new Burl converters  )
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2nd December 2010
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How does it get to the computer??
Stef
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2nd December 2010
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Old A16 was connected to pulsar/scope with a specific firewire cable...
Should be firewire...
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2nd December 2010
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Don't see any FW on the box, must need to MADI to the computer I'm thinking..
Stef
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2nd December 2010
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you will need a Madi card... like the RME HDSPe Madi or the SSl Madi eXtreme cards
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2nd December 2010
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#9 | | Gear interested
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yes, you need MADI or ADAT as digital interfaces, it can also route MADI channels to ADAT and viceversa while converting analog, so you can e.g. feed the first 16 MADI channels to analog while transferring the next 16 channels to ADAT to feed an ADAT converter...just in case you have some ADAT gear which you want to be in the MADI stream.
-Juergen / Ferrofish
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2nd December 2010
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Hey Juergen, congratulations on this new product.
are the any plans for MAC OSX compatibility?
thanks, jeremy
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2nd December 2010
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I want hear it now¡¡¡¡
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Hum...seems that we need a comparison chart now  ...
How it compares to the SSL one for instance...
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2nd December 2010
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Jurgen,
could you please share latency values (per sample rate) for the unit?
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2nd December 2010
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Good stuff, mate!
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2nd December 2010
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Hi G-spot...digital latency is always 3 samples, but there are some more latencies for the conversion, this is due to the digital filters in the AKM's.
Datasheet says: 43 (for 32k-96k) 38 (for 192k) AD and 28 samples DA. So if my calculator doesn't lie to me it's about 0.6ms to 0.9ms.
-Juergen // FF
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2nd December 2010
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What about specs? Clock jitter? What op amps are used in the signal path? Thanks!
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3rd December 2010
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Originally Posted by Juergen Hi G-spot...digital latency is always 3 samples, but there are some more latencies for the conversion, this is due to the digital filters in the AKM's.
Datasheet says: 43 (for 32k-96k) 38 (for 192k) AD and 28 samples DA. So if my calculator doesn't lie to me it's about 0.6ms to 0.9ms.
-Juergen // FF | Many thanks!!!!
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6th December 2010
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Wow, this thing is really impressive! This could make MADI become available for smaller companies and studios, who can't afford that pricey (but excellent) RME stuff, which is almost 3x the price. I'm very excited how this little sucker sounds and what your next products will be.
Thanks for giving us MADI for a reasonable price!
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6th December 2010
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Originally Posted by living sounds What about specs? Clock jitter? What op amps are used in the signal path? Thanks! | +1...I need some info.
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6th December 2010
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Originally Posted by jeremyglover Hey Juergen, congratulations on this new product.
are the any plans for MAC OSX compatibility?
thanks, jeremy | This is not a computer audio interface, it is an A/D and D/A convertor. It converts ADAT & MADI -> analog and vice versa.
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Originally Posted by trickydicky This is not a computer audio interface, it is an A/D and D/A convertor. It converts ADAT & MADI -> analog and vice versa. | The MIDI remote control functions are via a PC program. I'm sure that is what he is referring to.
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7th December 2010
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WHY must the German companies make converters without AES/EBU?
Why why why?
JSL
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7th December 2010
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Interesting. I owned the old Creamware mint green color a16 Ultra and it was always rock solid and sounded pretty great for the $$.
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7th December 2010
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Originally Posted by rumleymusic The MIDI remote control functions are via a PC program. I'm sure that is what he is referring to. | | |
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Looks great! I got an unused 192Digital that I can now get an extra 16 inputs into PT HD! When's it shipping?
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7th December 2010
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here are some more specs, sorry for the delay (i mean mine, not the delay in the a16..):
THDN: typ -100dB (in), -102dB(out)
Jitter: <1ns (internal, BNC, ADAT), <2ns MADI
OpAmps: LM833
Converters: AK4620B from AKM
The remote software is currently only for PC, the MAC version is currently in development (but you can control everything also directly on the box)
Greets,
Juergen
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7th December 2010
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..i forgot: its already shipping, we started at december 1st!
-Juergen
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7th December 2010
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#28 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Juergen
The remote software is currently only for PC, the MAC version is currently in development (but you can control everything also directly on the box)
Greets,
Juergen
| Cool! Just make sure that there is a Mac version eventually!  any idea of about when that might be?
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7th December 2010
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hmmm , interesting ! and a cool price !
no aes/ebu ? huh ... ?
so sad ...
but i´m looking forward for some comparisons with the lynx aurora .... 
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7th December 2010
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#30 | | Lives for gear
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Great price !
What is the maximum input and outputlevel ?
WT
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