DMGAudio eQuality

[DaveGamble]

Hey, v1.15 is out now!

Changes:
- CPU Usage Improvements
- Added ProTools metering support
- Fix M/S / bypass latency for non-8k IR length.
- Added analyser outlined/filled/both pref.

Grab it from the dmgaudio site, under Downloads on the product page

Dave.

[stinkyfingers]

thank you for making the best even better...

[Entrainer]

From this thread:
Softube Tonelux Tilt EQ

Originally Posted by anon

I've Been trying this out for a couple of days whilst mixing and I like it a lot, but I also have DMG Equality, which I think is a stunning EQ and the Tilt on that is IMO every bit as good as the Softube one

I didn't want to "dirty" up the Softube thread with discussion directly
relating to Equality features.

SO, where is this TILT they speak of? I didn't come across it when
I was demoing Equality. (which I'm buying BTW, regardless, for my
new machine...)

I've seen the transpose, but nothing like a combined shelf cut/boost
rotating on an axis. Did I miss it?

[awjoe]

Okay, based on SOS reviews and this thread, I downloaded and installed the demo last night. The results were:

* it trashed my browser immediately

* when I restarted my computer, the reboot hung up, and restarting a second time took me into safe mode

Why did it do that? I've got a newish computer, dual core Win 7, and this is the first time that installing an application has had that effect.

Also, how long does the demo last?

Oh,hang on...under 'Credits' it says I have 30 days. Fine. Now, what about the knee to the groin that my computer took last night during installation?

[awjoe]

Originally Posted by Entrainer

SO, where is this TILT they speak of? I didn't come across it when I was demoing Equality. (which I'm buying BTW, regardless, for my new machine...)

Probably not what you're looking for, but:

Setup>Analyser>Analyser Tilt

[monomaker]

Originally Posted by awjoe

Okay, based on SOS reviews and this thread, I downloaded and installed the demo last night. The results were:

* it trashed my browser immediately

* when I restarted my computer, the reboot hung up, and restarting a second time took me into safe mode

I've been using Equality since launch and nothing like this has ever happen, nor have I seen anyone else ever say anything like this. It surely couldn't trash your browser or your computer because that's not possible for what is essentially an isolated dll that will only load via a vst host - your browser or even Windows can't load a plugin without a host, so you can be pretty certain it isn't the plugin. It doesn't execute on boot or go anywhere near your browser, so I respectfully suggest your problem might lie somewhere else.

[awjoe]

Originally Posted by monomaker

I've been using Equality since launch and nothing like this has ever happen, nor have I seen anyone else ever say anything like this. It surely couldn't trash your browser or your computer because that's not possible for what is essentially an isolated dll that will only load via a vst host - your browser or even Windows can't load a plugin without a host, so you can be pretty certain it isn't the plugin. It doesn't execute on boot or go anywhere near your browser, so I respectfully suggest your problem might lie somewhere else.

Possibly. But everything was working until I installed the demo, and that's the exact point at which my browser stopped working smoothly, and the exact point at which I had problems rebooting. It's a good, modern computer and in 17 months operation I have never had this problem. Anyway, I did a system restore and now everything works well. So, here's what I'm going to do. I'm now going to install the demo again, and if the same problems happen again, I'm going to respectfully suggest that the source of the problem is the plugin. And if everything's okay, I'll report back and high five you.

[awjoe]

Originally Posted by monomaker

I've been using Equality since launch and nothing like this has ever happen, nor have I seen anyone else ever say anything like this. It surely couldn't trash your browser or your computer because that's not possible for what is essentially an isolated dll that will only load via a vst host - your browser or even Windows can't load a plugin without a host, so you can be pretty certain it isn't the plugin. It doesn't execute on boot or go anywhere near your browser, so I respectfully suggest your problem might lie somewhere else.

High five. Okay, you're just going to have to take my word for it when I say I had those problems after installing the demo. They happened. Now it's all working after reinstalling the demo, except for the fact that the mouse wheel doesn't change settings the way it should. But that seems to be a problem with a lot of people, judging by what I've read in this thread. I hope I can get this problem sorted out, because I'd like to buy this plugin - I like the way it sounds and works.

[dotl]

Originally Posted by Entrainer

SO, where is this TILT they speak of?

Preset > 010 Tilt

[awjoe]

Originally Posted by monomaker

I've been using Equality since launch and nothing like this has ever happen, nor have I seen anyone else ever say anything like this. It surely couldn't trash your browser or your computer because that's not possible for what is essentially an isolated dll that will only load via a vst host - your browser or even Windows can't load a plugin without a host, so you can be pretty certain it isn't the plugin. It doesn't execute on boot or go anywhere near your browser, so I respectfully suggest your problem might lie somewhere else.

Okay, here's the next chapter in this story. As it turns out, I downloaded the DMG compressor called Compassion. (It's a very powerful, very tweakable plugin, and I like it.) This evening, my browser started misbehaving - I wasn't able to load favorites, or they'd take a minute to load - goofy stuff like that. So I rebooted the computer, but it didn't improve the situation. So I did a system restore to a point in time before I installed the DMG compressor, and now my browser works fine. I don't know what's going on, but I'm convinced it's got something to do with the installation of DMG plugins.

[DistortingJack]

Originally Posted by awjoe

Okay, here's the next chapter in this story. As it turns out, I downloaded the DMG compressor called Compassion. (It's a very powerful, very tweakable plugin, and I like it.) This evening, my browser started misbehaving - I wasn't able to load favorites, or they'd take a minute to load - goofy stuff like that. So I rebooted the computer, but it didn't improve the situation. So I did a system restore to a point in time before I installed the DMG compressor, and now my browser works fine. I don't know what's going on, but I'm convinced it's got something to do with the installation of DMG plugins.

You're joking, right?
A plugin with a completely innocuous copy protection creating these problems is pretty much impossible. Your computer is buggy, but I can bet no plugin caused that. The fact you started noticing problems after installing them can't be more than a coincidence.
I've used and taught with PCs and Macs for 10 years and I've never seen a browser problem caused by any audio app, let alone a plugin.
Maybe if it was Native Instruments I'd believe you more

[hsym]

Originally Posted by awjoe

Okay, here's the next chapter in this story. As it turns out, I downloaded the DMG compressor called Compassion. (It's a very powerful, very tweakable plugin, and I like it.) This evening, my browser started misbehaving - I wasn't able to load favorites, or they'd take a minute to load - goofy stuff like that. So I rebooted the computer, but it didn't improve the situation. So I did a system restore to a point in time before I installed the DMG compressor, and now my browser works fine. I don't know what's going on, but I'm convinced it's got something to do with the installation of DMG plugins.

Are you using your DAW with regular computer chores i.e. anti-virus, internet, etc..
That could be your problem.

[awjoe]

Originally Posted by DistortingJack

You're joking, right?
A plugin with a completely innocuous copy protection creating these problems is pretty much impossible. Your computer is buggy, but I can bet no plugin caused that. The fact you started noticing problems after installing them can't be more than a coincidence.
I've used and taught with PCs and Macs for 10 years and I've never seen a browser problem caused by any audio app, let alone a plugin.
Maybe if it was Native Instruments I'd believe you more

I've never had this happen before. But okay, let's say you're right (and you probably are). However, the problem I'm describing happened *exactly* at the moment I installed the first plugin. Everything was fine a minute before I installed the plugin. One minute after I installed the plugin, my browser didn't work right. Doing a system restore solved the problem. No, that doesn't prove that the plugin caused the problem, I understand that. So the next day, I reinstalled the plugin (as well as the compression plugin, which I was also interested in buying). After reinstalling the plugins, the browser problems started again. So I did another system restore and the problems stopped.

So maybe you're right, but I'm *not* going to install the plugins again.

[awjoe]

Originally Posted by hsym

Are you using your DAW with regular computer chores i.e. anti-virus, internet, etc..
That could be your problem.

Well, that was my speculation - that the problem arose out of a messed up connection between the plugin installation and the browser - the downside of using my recording computer for internet use. But people tell me that's not possible, and I'm not knowledgeable enough to understand what's behind the problem, so maybe those people are right.

[DistortingJack]

Originally Posted by awjoe

Well, that was my speculation - that the problem arose out of a messed up connection between the plugin installation and the browser - the downside of using my recording computer for internet use. But people tell me that's not possible, and I'm not knowledgeable enough to understand what's behind the problem, so maybe those people are right.

Have you tried re-installing the browser? Trying another browser to see if the same problems happen?

[cdac]

Hi!
I'm not sure if im on the right thread but this is about COMPASSION.

First off, let me say i LOVE THE EQ and COMPRESSOR!
EQ replaced almost all of my eq needs.
Compassion the most universal compression and i can simulate different effects whenever i want...but im having a hUUUGE problem.

Apparently i'm using Pro tools Native, and whenever i pull instances on this bad boy, it eats my my available memory REALLY FAST.

For example, if I pull up any other plug in, it probably uses a few megabytes. But for compassion it uses a couple HUDNRED megabytes. my RTAS CPU usage is low, which is great, but it EATS up memory. FYI, even CPU hungry plug ins dont use that much memory.

Unfortunately we all know that pro tools is still a 32 bit machine, and I need all the available memory headroom as possible, this has sadly made me not use this compressor until hopefully a fix has been made.

Are any of you having this problem?

[DaveGamble]

Originally Posted by cdac

Hi!
I'm not sure if im on the right thread but this is about COMPASSION.

First off, let me say i LOVE THE EQ and COMPRESSOR!
EQ replaced almost all of my eq needs.
Compassion the most universal compression and i can simulate different effects whenever i want...but im having a hUUUGE problem.

Apparently i'm using Pro tools Native, and whenever i pull instances on this bad boy, it eats my my available memory REALLY FAST.

For example, if I pull up any other plug in, it probably uses a few megabytes. But for compassion it uses a couple HUDNRED megabytes. my RTAS CPU usage is low, which is great, but it EATS up memory. FYI, even CPU hungry plug ins dont use that much memory.

Unfortunately we all know that pro tools is still a 32 bit machine, and I need all the available memory headroom as possible, this has sadly made me not use this compressor until hopefully a fix has been made.

Are any of you having this problem?

This is fixed in Compassion v1.05 which I just sent off to beta
With all being well, it'll be out next week, assuming I get good feedback.

I've reduced it from 14mb/inst to 3.12mb/inst, which is about 22% the original, so you'll get 4-5 times as many instances for the same memory usage now

Dave.

[danander11]

Originally Posted by DaveGamble

This is fixed in Compassion v1.05 which I just sent off to beta
With all being well, it'll be out next week, assuming I get good feedback.

I've reduced it from 14mb/inst to 3.12mb/inst, which is about 22% the original, so you'll get 4-5 times as many instances for the same memory usage now

Dave.

BRILLIANT! news Dave, thanks!

[DaveGamble]

Hi,

DMGAudio update time!

Changes, EQuality v1.15->v1.16, Compassion v1.04->v1.05 and EQuick v1.00->v1.01

EQuick/EQuality/Compassion
- Fixed textbox display, ProTools Mac RTAS.
- Fix crash when switching between DMGAudio plugins in ProTools using header menu.
- Fixed obscure potential crash bug.
- VST3 versions support presets.
- Fixed clip-light handling in ProTools.
- Fixed bug whereby host redraw would slow down when UI was open.
- Improved AudioSuite metering and processing.
- Enable Windows ProTools automation menu.
- Fixed issues relating to window resizing in ProTools.
- Added A/B Automation type preference.
- Always report zero latency when expired/hard bypassed.

EQuality/Compassion
- Can now right-click the A/B menu to toggle.

EQuick/EQuality
- Fixed bug where saving filter with 48db/oct (entered numerically) reloads as 42db/oct.
- Fixed bug whereby analyser could hide high-frequency spikes.

EQuality
- Fix Spec-analyser pops.

Compassion
- Clip/Limiter is now post M-S decode.
- Added Limiter pre/post parameter.
- Added Expander Threshold offset parameter.
- Fixed issue whereby Auto-release depended on manual release parameter.
|- Warning: This might change sessions where autorelease is used. If so,
|- set auto-release short time to match manual release time.
- Fixed bug whereby detectors would display incorrectly as Peak in detector graph.
- Reduced memory usage by 14MB/instance. Now 3.2MB/instance.
- Added Peak/Hold indicator for limiter gain reduction.

EQuick
- Exclude filters/notches when computing maximum gain while dragging.
- Ctrl+Alt+Click to delete all selected bands.
- Fix Band Type control in VST3.
- Added mousewheel-zoom to graph.
- Speed up mousewheel adjustment of filter slopes.
- Fixed Solo in Stereo Mode menu.

Next update will hopefully include AAX Native support too. And there's a new product on the way... but there'll be more on that on my blog later

Big love!

Dave.

[RonPasquarelli]

Dave,

I had sent an email to your support address on Wednesday. I did mention in a follow up e-mail that I thought I could get by by only using the VST2 version not the VST 3. However, since then I did encounter the issue I described once more with the VST 2 version. I may have loaded a project at 96k after working on one that was 44.1k and this is when it occurred again. However I have not tried to reproduce the problem. I'm wondering if the latest release addresses this, or is this a known issue? Have you any thoughts or advice on the problem?

I have posted the original email text below.

Thanks,

Ron Pasquarelli


I seem to be having an issue with Equality on both Cubase 6 and PreSonus Studio One V2. I have not tested with other DAWs. I am running Win 7 x64 & x64 versions of both DAWs.

When I load a work in progress, go to a track that has Equality, solo it, and go and adjust the left most EQ band (the blue high pass filter) the EQ curve suddenly changes in character in an unexpected way. I merely click on the blue dot in the graph without even moving it. It sounds like another band is kicking in or cutting out “slightly” even though all other bands are off, although the same thing happens when I do have other bands on. This only happens each time I open any project and the first time I go to adjust the EQ. I have not tested this with other bands just the “blue” HPF. Nothing changes graphically or visually only audibly (except the blue band gets highlighted as I would expect).

Please let me know if you need any other details… I hope you can replicate/correct, or point me in the right direction if there is some expected behavior I am unaware of.

[ep1c0ne]

Has anyone else ran into a crashing bug that seems to be caused when launching EQuality after launching Aether?

[telluride]

Originally Posted by ep1c0ne

Has anyone else ran into a crashing bug that seems to be caused when launching EQuality after launching Aether?

Not here using Windows 7- x64 Sonar

[ep1c0ne]

Sorry, I should have mentioned that I'm running OSX 10.6.8 and Logic 9.1.6.

[JSt0rm]

hey all I'm looking to grab these plug ins. Will the update to aax be free?

[superwack]

Originally Posted by JSt0rm

hey all I'm looking to grab these plug ins. Will the update to aax be free?

+1 on that

Also, been demoing EQuality and EQuick (mac, snow leopard, PT 10) and I've found a couple of "bugs"... wondering if anyone has found the same?

1) Large/Huge on EQuick only increases the window size but the new area is grayed out (tiny/small/med all work)

2) REALY BIG issue in EQuality, EQuality (Latency) and EQuick - when you BYPASS the plugins, you have to stop and start playback in order for the plugs to report their delays to ADC so, in effect, there is NO way to compare with/without while playing back making A/B tests infuriating.. no other high latency plugins I tried had this issue (Pro-Q, X-Noise, etc.) this alone might be kind of a deal breaker for me regardless of how the EQ sounds (which is great!)

I have reported both of these to Dave @ DMG but have not heard back.

[Stieglitz]

Anybody else having export problems with Equality VST3 1.16 version and both Nunendo 4.3 and 5.5.2 ?

I created a simple repro project for anybody interested.
Basically I put several clips on a track, insert Equality VST3, punched in automation on the clips - each with it's own eq settings - hipass and lowpass activated.

Playback is consistent with the eq settings but the export is different. The faster-than-realtime export produces noticeably different results from what I hear in project. It seems that HPF and LPF are disabled/not read when exporting.
I have to record the mixdown which is ok by me, but still...

It has something to do with the Misc/"AB automation" option. If I switch it to "AB only" the output seems to be more correct but still different.

Also "AB Automation" set to ALL automaticaly engages write as if I touch parameters? That's weird. The option is not documented in the manual btw.

The VST2 version seems to work ok.

I wrote to Dave Gamble a few days ago but no answer.

Any idea ?

[superwack]

I wrote to Dave a week ago about two issues with EQuick in PT and still haven't heard back - odd because he usually responds quickly...

FYI my issues are (1) tool tips disappear and you have to sort of chase them and click wildly in hopes of changing parameters and (2) the Red/blue analyzer line is gone - even uninstalling/reinstalling did not fix that!

[borg64]

Originally Posted by superwack

I wrote to Dave a week ago about two issues with EQuick in PT and still haven't heard back - odd because he usually responds quickly...

Yep, always had prompt replies when reporting bugs or in need of support. I just noticed that Dave's last activity on GS was on December 12, and his last blog update was on December 1. Damn, I hope he's ok...

[superwack]

I did hear from Dave on March 5th (about a feature request) but nothing about the bugs I've reported since then...

[DaveGamble]

Originally Posted by JSt0rm

hey all I'm looking to grab these plug ins. Will the update to aax be free?

Yes, for aax-native.

Dave.