Native Instruments+Abbey Road???

[danika]

ABBEY ROAD COOPERATION | NATIVE INSTRUMENTS : SPECIALS

Native Instruments is proud to announce a new cooperation with the legendary recording studio, Abbey Road. The two companies will work together to produce a range of instruments that unite Abbey Road's recording expertise with Native Instrument's groundbreaking technology.

Anybody have any insight as to what that actually means?

[flute player]

Originally Posted by danika

ABBEY ROAD COOPERATION | NATIVE INSTRUMENTS : SPECIALS
Anybody have any insight as to what that actually means?

From what you can hear in the video they will make a line of instruments from and recorded at Abbey road.
I might be sceptic but will not be in line to buy these.
Besides the third party instuments that uses Kontakt 4, the own sampled instruments from NI are from a bad quality.
Let's take the new four types of piano's.
Most of them has not a rich and open sound but are very thin amd not real at all.
So let's see first what this will bring.

greetz,

Paul

[Silver Sonya]

Originally Posted by flute player

From what you can hear in the video they will make a line of instruments from and recorded at Abbey road.
I might be sceptic but will not be in line to buy these.
Besides the third party instuments that uses Kontakt 4, the own sampled instruments from NI are from a bad quality.
Let's take the new four types of piano's.
Most of them has not a rich and open sound but are very thin amd not real at all.
So let's see first what this will bring.

greetz,

Paul

Those pianos suck. Those are the old "Akoustik" pianos. I don't know why they even bothered to bring them back.

But this is going to be great.

- c

[topperf]

If one like to have abbey road sounds - Buy Reason and the fantastic refill 'Abbey Road keyboards' - very impressive stuff.

[sonicdefault]

It appears these new instruments will be tracked to tape (at least in part). If so, it should be oh so nice. I'm certainly interested.


-SD

[WindowSills]

After watching the video tour, looks like they're going to cover some similar ground as the Reason Refill - the Challen and Steinway uprights and Hammond RT-3. Non keyboard stuff too - like a Ludwig Oyster Pearl drum kit...

Will Abbey Road allow them to capture impulse responses of the studios and echo chambers for the convolution reverb in Kontakt 4?

It'll be interesting to see what they come up with.

[danika]

Originally Posted by WindowSills

After watching the video tour, looks like they're going to cover some similar ground as the Reason Refill - the Challen and Steinway uprights and Hammond RT-3. Non keyboard stuff too - like a Ludwig Oyster Pearl drum kit...

I don't have the Abbey Road refill but I do have the Reason Pianos refill which I think is excellent.

So since the recording would be done at Abbey Road, we can probably assume that's going to be good. Will the sample mapping be OK? Based on the NI pianos, I dunno.

[miscend]

Originally Posted by flute player

Besides the third party instuments that uses Kontakt 4, the own sampled instruments from NI are from a bad quality.

Paul

Really? I thought Kontakt shipped with an excellent default library. I've also heard great things about the samples shipped with Maschine.

[flute player]

Originally Posted by miscend

Really? I thought Kontakt shipped with an excellent default library. I've also heard great things about the samples shipped with Maschine.

I have several third party plugins that uses kontakt 4 player engine.
You can download some samples for free out of the full version.
And no I was not impressed.

greetz,

Paul

[Nahuel]

Originally Posted by miscend

Really? I thought Kontakt shipped with an excellent default library. I've also heard great things about the samples shipped with Maschine.

yea the default kontakt patchs are good, you get some vsl strings too.

[cane creek]

Another Mrs Mills piano ...... lol

Ill wait until NI are practically giving them away , just like all their other instruments stupid me payed full price for.

[gussyg2007]

buy now kick yourself later !!

[jslevin]

Isn't it essentially ... this?

[jamwerks]

Ni has done several repackages: Evolve, Sax & Brass (Chris Hein), True strike, etc.; sold as "low cost" light version Kontakt add ons. Nothing wrong with that I guess. Might be some interesting stuff comin' in the future with Abby Roads.

They should have held off on that recent Akoustik pno add on though. tutt
Those sounds were passable 4 years ago, but against the Ivory Italian Grand (at only $140) and others now, it just makes NI look like a joke.

[ProducerBoy]

If these are on par with the Reason pack, then I'm totally game!

[Farshad]

Maybe a NI impulse-based reverb with a library completely dedicated to IRs captured at the Abbey Road (different locations, mics, distances, etc).

NI does not have any reverb in their line and no one has done any Abbey Road IRs ...

[sonicdefault]

It's interesting that NI is conceding to let the sound of these new libraries be attributable to Abbey Road's recording expertise, and put forth their own contribution as the sampling technology. I think this is a good reason to be optimistic. I guess we'll know more in January.

-SD

[WindowSills]

Originally Posted by jslevin

Isn't it essentially ... this?

Seems that they are hinting at incorporating some of those same instruments and going beyond just keyboards. Obviously to use the Refill you need to be using Reason, this NI material presumably will function as a regular AU/VST/RTAS VI plugin (likely a Kontakt Player).

[Silver Sonya]

Wouldn't they have to start fresh?

Doesn't Propellerheads own that content?

- c

[Farshad]

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

...Doesn't Propellerheads own that content?

Content yes but not the actual instruments and everybody can sample them with a different mic, mic position, ambiance, et. Unless PH have some agreements with AR to not to let anybody else sample those instruments (I doubt it).

[oceantracks]

Originally Posted by Farshad

Maybe a NI impulse-based reverb with a library completely dedicated to IRs captured at the Abbey Road (different locations, mics, distances, etc).

NI does not have any reverb in their line and no one has done any Abbey Road IRs ...

Unless something has recently changed, AR will not allow impulse recording of their studios, at least as of about a year ago....

TH

[Farshad]

Originally Posted by oceantracks

Unless something has recently changed, AR will not allow impulse recording of their studios, at least as of about a year ago....

TH

Yes, that is what I thought. The novelty about their partnership might have to do with that change.

Like, who could guess one year ago Lexicon reverbs will b available as a native plugin?

[Levon]

Originally Posted by flute player

Besides the third party instuments that uses Kontakt 4, the own sampled instruments from NI are from a bad quality.


Paul

Paul, this is your OPINION, not a fact, so please don't state it as a fact!

I checked the Reason Abbey Road keyboards a long time ago, I liked them very much, but using Rewire in Logic is just too much hassle for me. If NI gets this right, I'm very much interested!

[feck]

I would really like to see NI "up their game" in general. In my opinion they have become a middle-of-the-road developer over the last few years. Which isn't to say I don't like and use some of their products, I just feel like their releases have been lackluster of late.

[Entrainer]

Originally Posted by feck

I would really like to see NI "up their game" in general. In my opinion they have become a middle-of-the-road developer over the last few years. Which isn't to say I don't like and use some of their products, I just feel like their releases have been lackluster of late.

Agreed. They really laid the path, but lately I've been more impressed with EWQL Play, Sonic Couture, Tone Hammer, and Scarbee (now NI) for sample libraries.

I'll give NI it's due though. Absynth and Reaktor were/are great products. They are really moving towards the mainstream lately. Perhaps a similar course to the early innovations of Roland + Korg vs. the money making success of their later workstations. Damn NI for wanting to make money!

I'm interested in this Abbey Road product. Don't personally have use for piano in my productions, but odd vintage keys, bass, guitar, and acoustic drums are always welcome.

BTW... I WANT REAKTOR 6!

dreaming a dream.

[C Heat]

Maybe all NI needs is better support and consistent DAW integration?

[wildpark]

i seaw a lot of guys buying the reason refills too use it in every sampler with sample robot converted.

so whats new about that !?

Originally Posted by Levon

Paul, this is your OPINION, not a fact, so please don't state it as a fact!

I checked the Reason Abbey Road keyboards a long time ago, I liked them very much, but using Rewire in Logic is just too much hassle for me. If NI gets this right, I'm very much interested!

[The Buddha Rats]

Originally Posted by Farshad

Maybe a NI impulse-based reverb with a library completely dedicated to IRs captured at the Abbey Road (different locations, mics, distances, etc).

NI does not have any reverb in their line and no one has done any Abbey Road IRs ...

BUMP: +1000 on any Abbey Road Impulse-based verbs.