Announcing: "CINEMATIC STRINGS" Release!

[Dean Landon]

Hi Alex,

How large are the files to download?

The Apparitions demo sounds great.

Thanks!

[cinematicstrings]

Hi, thanks for your interest. The download is 11gb.

Cheers!

[VitaEtMusica]

Amazing. Really, really well done. Love these string sounds. Great website, excellent trailer. I'm really impressed with your legato scripting and dynamics- just sounds fantastic.

Congratulations on the release.

Questions:

Do you have a patch for the "room noise" or is that in the samples?

When can we expect the extended version? I'm excited to hear your gliss/porta implementation.

Way to go. Your (I'm sure) very hard work shows.

[cinematicstrings]

Hi VitaEtMusica, thanks for your interest and kind words. No noise reduction was performed on the samples, so all the noise you hear is part of the samples themselves.

As for the extended edition, it's a going to be a combination of new recordings and a decent amount of extra scripting. I've gotten some exciting results so far from preliminary testing - especially with regard to the portamento system, but long story short, not for a couple of months I'd say.

[feck]

These look like a very cool new addition to the myriad string libraries out there. As far as the extended edition, I assume it will be a paid upgrade for those who purchase what is available now? Also, it looks like a choice for me currently between these and LASS - what exactly are the main differences between these? I gotta do some research, it looks like...thumbsup

[jamwerks]

WOW ! Nice work thumbsup

[The MPCist]

Originally Posted by cinematicstrings

No noise reduction was performed on the samples, so all the noise you hear is part of the samples themselves.

thumbsup great! I always hated having NR on samples. Can't wait to see how the extended version turns out!

[rectifier]

Website looks great, have to say. Sounds damn nice too! Congrats.

[Animus]

If these had divisi they would be perfect and competition to LASS.

[Energie]

demo sounds nice!

bookmarked this page for future!


anyone have music they put together using this library besides the online demos?

[muziksculp]

Congratulations !

Very nice website, and great sounding demos.

I would like to hear more demos, that show the various strings articulations, i.e. more staccato, marcato , Tremolos, spiccato, legatos, ..etc.


Cheers.

[drBill]

Originally Posted by muziksculp

Congratulations !

Very nice website, and great sounding demos.

I would like to hear more demos, that show the various strings articulations, i.e. more staccato, marcato , Tremolos, spiccato, legatos, ..etc.


Cheers.

Congrats Alex. Glad to hear it's finally ready!!!

I agree about the demos. Love to hear more. Especially with strings alone. Are there multiple demos? Was I just jetlagged and miss them? All I heard was the opening bombastic trailer-esque piece which pretty much told me nothing about the library. Nice writing, but I couldn't tell if I liked the strings or not. Website is nice though, but I'd like to hear more.

And I'd like to know how much more expensive the expanded library is.

[zboy2854]

Originally Posted by Animus

If these had divisi they would be perfect and competition to LASS.

Agreed. Just listening to the demos vs. the LASS demos I found the Cinematic Strings to be more realistic sounding. If Cinematic included solo/divisi, I'd be all over this as a no brainer.

[feck]

So this set includes no solo strings? I can't find any info on the site about what exactly it does include. That would definitely be a help - some more details about exactly what is included here, articulation and instrument-wise.

[zboy2854]

Originally Posted by feck

So this set includes no solo strings? I can't find any info on the site about what exactly it does include. That would definitely be a help - some more details about exactly what is included here, articulation and instrument-wise.

Announcing: "CINEMATIC STRINGS"

It appears that solo strings are not included, only sections..

[Dean Landon]

Originally Posted by feck

So this set includes no solo strings? I can't find any info on the site about what exactly it does include. That would definitely be a help - some more details about exactly what is included here, articulation and instrument-wise.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect the close mic position is the solo string?

From the web-site.

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We recorded Cinematic Strings with 3 different microphone positions, to give you maximum flexibility when mixing. Special editing techniques were used during programming to retain phase alignment between mics, and the result is a wonderfully malleable, definable sound.

Having multiple mic sets means you can also choose to mix in surround sound

Close Microphone Position

Use this mic set to bring out definition to parts, or to create a dryer sound that could be perceived as "smaller". Neumanns were used to capture the high end 'air' of the string section. These mics also work well when panned to more extreme settings, giving a wider-than-life sound that is commonly found on Hollywood soundtrack recordings.

Due to the dry sound created by close mics, it's unlikely you would want to use this mic set exclusively. It will almost always be desirable to mix in a little bit of the other mic sets to provide ambience, even if you choose to mix this particular set high.

Stage Microphone Position

The Stage mic set is a very useful, all-purpose mic set that is often the best halfway-house when writing. It's a carefully balanced cocktail of smooth, warm and lush - yet it retains enough clarity and definition to be used on its own, without the other supporting mic sets. The stage mic is usually the main mic set you will use, and probably have highest in the mix at most times, using the other supporting sets to add a little definition here and there, and to increase room depth.

Because of its all purpose nature, the Stage mic set is probably the one you'll want to start with first, using the others as supports during the mix phase. This will also help save RAM on your DAW whilst writing

Room Microphone Position

The Room mic set (or 'hall' mic set) features mics set back further into the hall, to provide more of the hall's natural reverb. This is the 'wettest' set of them all, and would mainly be used to add some extra depth to the sound. There's an important difference between this mic set and simply adding more reverb to the other mic sets, as this features the true early reflections, decay and so on of the hall - not an approximated guess that external reverb units will provide. When mixing in surround sound, it's often desirable to have these mixed slight back to the rear surrounds (although we'd recommend against hard panning them).

It's unlikely you'd want to write with this mic set exclusively, however, it can also be useful to feature this mic higher in the mix when you wish the strings to 'sit back' in the mix, perhaps when blending with other orchestral libraries, or supporting a solo woodwind for example.

[Dean Landon]

Originally Posted by zboy2854

Announcing: "CINEMATIC STRINGS"

It appears that solo strings are not included, only sections..

Thanks for the link zboy2854. I hadn't seen that.

[LOU AU]

Is the site down? I've tried all day to view it but only get the "Coming soon" page. Is there a link I am missing?
Thanks

[Dean Landon]

Originally Posted by LOU AU

Is the site down? I've tried all day to view it but only get the "Coming soon" page. Is there a link I am missing?
Thanks

Try this.

Cinematic Strings

[fatcatstrings]

Originally Posted by drBill

Love to hear more. Especially with strings alone. All I heard was the opening bombastic trailer-esque piece which pretty much told me nothing about the library. Nice writing, but I couldn't tell if I liked the strings or not.

Second this - what I've heard is very impressive, but let's have a strings-only demo which really shows off the "True Legato" function. That's the one feature which will truly deliver realism.

[VitaEtMusica]

Originally Posted by fatcatstrings

Second this - what I've heard is very impressive, but let's have a strings-only demo which really shows off the "True Legato" function. That's the one feature which will truly deliver realism.

Cinematic Strings MP3 Demos

"Apparitions" is string only- very nice. "Why" is also great- really soft strings. Sort of a Gabriel Yared type piece. I so love the room noise behind the samples. The more I listen to these demos the more I'm convinced I gotta have these. These really do sound like "hollywood" strings- like A players, whereas LASS sounds more like a couple A's with a majority of B's.

[Energie]

Yes

very very good. Right now i have Sonivox strings and East West Platinum. Wondering how these will compare. I am not completly happy with either.

[drBill]

Originally Posted by VitaEtMusica

Cinematic Strings MP3 Demos

"Apparitions" is string only- very nice. "Why" is also great- really soft strings. Sort of a Gabriel Yared type piece. I so love the room noise behind the samples. The more I listen to these demos the more I'm convinced I gotta have these. These really do sound like "hollywood" strings- like A players, whereas LASS sounds more like a couple A's with a majority of B's.

Vita - thanks for pointing those out. Somehow I missed them this time around, although I think I heard them a couple months ago.

Apparitions is nice and gives me hope. Really great sounding, although the mix was a little strange and not too convincing. "Why" has that damn voice behind/over the strings and makes it difficult to really hear them well. Near the end when the Vox is gone, they sound too "thick" to me, making me wish for those divisi sections in the LASS library - although it could be in the orchestration. Actually, might well be there.

At any rate, thanks for the pointer to the demos. They sound really good. I guess the only way to know for sure is to get it and play it. I like the LASS demos as they really give you a good idea about what you will get.

I agree with fatcatstrings about the legato samples. Playability means EVERYTHING to me as I don't have days to spend on tweaking velocities and CC data. A light demo version of the legato strings would be cool. Or at least a real time demo showing the playability.

How bout it Alex??? Very promising, but for us jaded and cynical guys........ How about showing us some more! thumbsupthumbsup

[feck]

These seem like a similar product to Symphobia (which I have) as far as articulations/sections, and the focus on full ensembles. Curious also to hear the legato, as well as the different attacks.

[Nordkrog]

I think the demo's sound promising, but it's hard to judge what exactly you get - and most importantly - the playabillity.

I have the LASS and I'm so impressed with them. They really live, the divisi is fantastic and they are so easy to play.
BUT if I hear convincing demo's of some of the legato patches, I might buy this one as well.

It would be great if Cinematicstrings listened to the LASS demo's. Especially those with just one legato patch at a time. That's just damn straight and convincing. Listen and do some demo's like that, that would be great!

[zboy2854]

I agree that it would be nice to hear more isolated demos of the Cinematic stuff, to see if it really is as good as the current demos suggest.

There's just something about the sound of the LASS demos that while it's better than a lot of sampled strings I've heard, there's still something "off" about them, still something "plasticky" for lack of a better word. I'd want to make sure the Cinematic doesn't suffer from the same issue before purchasing.

[drBill]

Originally Posted by Nordkrog

It would be great if Cinematicstrings listened to the LASS demo's. Especially those with just one legato patch at a time. That's just damn straight and convincing. Listen and do some demo's like that, that would be great!

Agreed. If you really want to sell the product, make it obvioius to the buyer what you're getting and how easy/hard it is to achieve the sound in the "produced" demos. The LASS demos are great at showing you how easy it is to program/manipulate their samples.

But something about them (LASS - maybe the mixes??) sounds fake in the stereo image. The CS sounds better to my ears, but I still can't make a judgement without different demos.

I think we've all been BURNED so many times, spending thousands of $$ and finding out that the samples just aren't really as easy to deal with as the demos make it sound. The manufacturer that puts those fears to rest is one that will sell a lot of product. I hope it's CS!! thumbsupthumbsup

[Energie]

looking forward to that free demo patch!

nothing like trying it first hand!

[fatcatstrings]

Originally Posted by VitaEtMusica

Cinematic Strings MP3 Demos

"Apparitions" is string only- very nice.

I'm very impressed with the legato function, CS is the best library I've heard yet for legato. There's just something funny about the sample envelope on faster note-changes e.g. at 0'43" in Apparitions. Can anyone else hear what I mean?
Cinematic Strings MP3 Demos