Mackie® Onyx-i™ Series Mixers with Deep FireWire Integration
Old 3rd August 2009
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mackie isnt an upgrade from the maudio hardware....
I dunno... If I were stuck with the integrated pres, I'd take the Mackie's over M-Audio every time.

Now pony up for that Hotel room.
Old 3rd August 2009
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IMHO mackie isnt an upgrade from the maudio hardware....




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Old 3rd August 2009
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Didn't Mackie start the "Don't be afraid of the dark" thing for the winter tech show in January? They never announced what it was but gave a statement that they were pulling it for now but it will be worth the wait. Looks like they may be right. This is definitely a step forward (just letting others play)... if it is digi approved.
Old 3rd August 2009
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it might not seem like such a dramatic difference to warrant a totally different line of interfaces
Oh I see... Maybe it was just wishful thinking that I could use an Onyx 1640 then?

I mean I guess I know it's all about selling new/more units (whether it's software or hardware) but it would have been nice to allow backward compatibility with older units but then have snazzier new units maybe with the pre-fade EQ mod, some sort of midi control ala the A&H Zed/Yamaha N Series etc etc etc.

I'll stop my speculation though until someone gets the real hands-on skinny.

Who knows, maybe we'll ALL be happy... Except, of course, the perpetual Mackie haterz.

R.
Old 4th August 2009
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So this really brings me to the (tired) question of...

Why doesn't AVID just let Pro Tools work with ASIO? Period. The reasons to do so outweigh (in number, if not in resonance) the reasons NOT to do so. IMHO at least.
Old 4th August 2009
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thats some funny shit.....
Old 4th August 2009
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Mackie Pro Tools AD/DA Mixer: 820i, 1220i, 1620i, 1640i? Is it true ?

Is it True ?

Makie Mixers that work with PT LE .... this could be very hand for Live work.

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" Looking at the current Onyx Series, it would not be unreasonable to expect Mackie 820i, 1220i, 1620i or 1640i Onyx Pro Tools compatible FireWire Mixers.
More details to follow... "



Be interesting ... are they branching out ... to maybe include other hardware units for PT LE Users ?

be great to get an appogee ensemble working with PT 8 ... or maybe its something were just going to have to wait for in PT 9 ?????

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Old 4th August 2009
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So this really brings me to the (tired) question of...

Why doesn't AVID just let Pro Tools work with ASIO? Period. The reasons to do so outweigh (in number, if not in resonance) the reasons NOT to do so. IMHO at least.

Because its a completely different architecture. If you opened it up to ASIO then the reliability would vary vastly between each interface.
I like PT because after a little setting up I can get a stable system. When there is a problem its quite simple to track it down as there are less variables that a multitude of ASIO interfaces would introduce.
Old 4th August 2009
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This is viral MKT, and seems it's working pretty good
Old 4th August 2009
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Get a room, you two. (2)
LOL

Old 4th August 2009
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Don't get too excited. IIRC, Avid hasn't bought anyone new lately. Even given the state of things, it makes more sense to me that they'd buy the Mackie brand than open up the software to even one other manufacturer.
Old 4th August 2009
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Because its a completely different architecture. If you opened it up to ASIO then the reliability would vary vastly between each interface.
I like PT because after a little setting up I can get a stable system. When there is a problem its quite simple to track it down as there are less variables that a multitude of ASIO interfaces would introduce.
Well, that's true, especially for TDM/HD setups. Unquestionably worth it. I fully rationalize the architectural differences from ASIO to TDM, but I doubt that LE and MP are really much different, technically speaking. I would not be an authority on that subject though, just my guess.

I don't mean to imply that Digidesign should stop developing HD, LE, MP by any means. I suppose they could broaden their line up even more and offer an ASIO version, at yet another price point. This would preserve those lines, and also tap into the broader DAW market. Just an idea. I doubt it would happen.

Come to think about it, it might work better for them to include PT with M-Audio hardware as they do their own interfaces. Then leverage that by offering the ASIO release at the same price point they offer MP at now, thus keeping the M-Audios more attractive than other ASIO cards.
Old 5th August 2009
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interesting...
Old 5th August 2009
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Perhaps Digi is now licensing out compatibility with its software? If that is true, hopefully MH will get on board!
Old 5th August 2009
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I remember reading something from one of Digi's people a while back saying that they were looking into opening up the software to other companies' interfaces. Maybe this is it?
Old 5th August 2009
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Mackie and Pro Tools - no more guessing

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Old 6th August 2009
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Wake me when I can run the software using whatever hardware I prefer.
Old 6th August 2009
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It's only going to be a big deal if these allow more simultanious I/O. If they're still limited to 18 .........
Old 6th August 2009
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It's only going to be a big deal if these allow more simultanious I/O. If they're still limited to 18 .........
+1...
Old 6th August 2009
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I can't see this doing anything for mackie.
*shrug*

sounds good to someone like me who's using a 1640, but who would still like to have PT...
Old 6th August 2009
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It's only going to be a big deal if these allow more simultanious I/O. If they're still limited to 18 .........
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+1...
The biggest Mackie Onyx Mixer with Firewire is 16/4 and the Firewirecard has only 18 AD and 2 DA.
I think, that there won't be more I/O with that option. It's just one more interface, which is nice IMO.
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The biggest Mackie Onyx Mixer with Firewire is 16/4 and the Firewirecard has only 18 AD and 2 DA.
I think, that there won't be more I/O with that option. It's just one more interface, which is nice IMO.
Yeah. As much as I liked using the Firewire 1640 remotely, especially with EQ mod, if they don't increase the in/out options it doesn't excite me so much either.

PTMP would be nice but now that Logic has similar options for editing (Flex/Elastic - I said SIMILAR) I'm not sure if I would buy a new desk just to use M-Powered.

Especially if it stays 18/2.

It would be nice to have 16in 16out so you had the option to use the Mackie for cheap and cheerful summing/inserts etc.

R.
Old 6th August 2009
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*shrug*

sounds good to someone like me who's using a 1640, but who would still like to have PT...
The article doesn't say anything about being able to use a 1640 board. They're referring to a new line of onyx boards.

Does the 1604 have a converter card add on thing or something that I'm not aware of? I thought it was just an analog board?

Or were you being facetious?
Old 7th August 2009
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Question

The 1640 is Onyx. I have a 1220 with the FireWire card. I also have M-Powered Pro Tools. The question for me is if this "Mackie Universal Driver V1.0" will work with legacy products, or just this new "i Series."
Old 7th August 2009
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sorry, I was thinking of the 1604 or 1640 of the pre onyx days. The numbering/naming system has me confused.

I just looked it up. I guess it was called the 1642 VLZ.


So I guess it makes sense for current customers of mackie. It seems like maybe it's mostly an attempt to keep the customers they currently have and keep them from possibly switching to m-audio/digidesign hardware in the future.

actually, the more I think about it, the more I realize that this would be appealing for a very first recording setup. A little over 2 grand total investment for 16 mic pre's + eq's, and pro-tools. That is a pretty decent deal. add a couple of those audix mic packs or something similar and some monitors, some cheap mic stands and for around 3 grand or so total investment you can record an entire band live. Not bad at all.
Old 8th August 2009
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actually, the more I think about it, the more I realize that this would be appealing for a very first recording setup. A little over 2 grand total investment for 16 mic pre's + eq's, and pro-tools. That is a pretty decent deal. add a couple of those audix mic packs or something similar and some monitors, some cheap mic stands and for around 3 grand or so total investment you can record an entire band live. Not bad at all.
I think so myself and am diligently scouring the net for more info!
Old 8th August 2009
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It's only going to be a big deal if these allow more simultanious I/O. If they're still limited to 18 .........
16 is fine for recording a rock band IMHO 18 = better.. but still..

1 kik in
2 kik out (do you need this on its own channel?)
3 sn top
4 sn bot (do you need this on its own channel?)
5 t 1
6 t 2
7 t 3 (do you need this?)
8 hh (do you need this on its own channel?)
9 ride (do you need this on its own channel?)
10 OH L
11 OH R
12 Room L
13 Room R
14 Bass DI
15 Bass Amp
16 Gtr L
17 Grt R
18 gvox
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