New library for Nebula (ANALOG TAPE!!)

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CDSoundMaster.com

8 machines-10 types of tapes: 170 programs!!!

I'm trying the free programs now and they sound awesome!

[Fuseburn]

Cool, the free samples work with Nebula 3 FREE !

(you always have to add that information. There's 2 kinds of "free" in nebula land - free for everybody (i.e. works with Nebula 3 Free) or free only for customers (i.e. works only with the commercial Nebula version))

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Oops you're right, I was still exited while writing this post

also incase anyone missed, there are audio samples too at the website.

Michael already answered some questions at Acusticaudio but until he shows-up here you guys can also check KVR: "R2R- The Essential Analog Tape Collection"

[Finnish]

Aaargh, I've just ended my first "real" session with my first client. Well, let's see if I get the mix back for adjustments, then it's nebula-time!

[4damind]

The Revox B77 example is awesome!
After this a D.W. Fearn VT-4 (Doc Fear) to give some more of the missing highs.

[cooker]

Originally Posted by 4damind

The Revox B77 example is awesome!
After this a D.W. Fearn VT-4 (Doc Fear) to give some more of the missing highs.

Nice finding, huge sound! thumbsup

[Silver Sonya]

This software is confusing to me. The website is vertiginous.

Is it available for Mac?

Is it VST only?

Explanation?

- c

[cooker]

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

This software is confusing to me. The website is vertiginous.

Is it available for Mac?

Is it VST only?

Explanation?

- c

Anyone tried Nebula?

There's a lot of info here about the sampler. Yes its avalible for mac but only vst at the moment.

Just go to Acusticaudio , register, at download/free releases there's nebula 3free, after downloading-installing it also don't forget to download the other free programs avalible there, after that you can download the free tape programs from http://cdsoundmaster.com/Mac-PC/R2R%3DFREE.zip

Though it looks complicated, the usage is very easy. Just select the program you want from the menu (categorised as for example EQU or R2R), then click prog (next to list) at the menu to see the controls. Note that if you want to try a reverb you must open nebula reverb (actually you can use nebula reverb for anything-the regular one is more light on cpu)

You don't need to change attack-release setting or liquidity. Most programs doesn't even require to change anything, just insert and go.

[farjedi]

It's a VST plugin...there is a Mac version but it's not available as a free plugin as yet (AFAIK), but I'm sure won't be long...

[zaphod]

for mac users:
this is the topic
Acusticaudio Forums-viewtopic-Nebula on MAC OSX

in the same thread you'll find links for the free version (starting from page 8). I recommend to read it all if you are interested in buying.
Things will be sorted in a better way soon.

[thermos]

Very impressive bank. Much better than the free stuff that comes with Nebula free (for mac). I can't wait until it works with the AU wrapper. You guys will see so many sales, you won't know what to do with all your new found income.

Silver Sonya, the Nebula free plug wraps into DP just fine if thats what you use. Definitely a plugin worth keeping an eye on.

[eveken]

It is the Sound!

No regret to use Nebula!!

[mljung]

Just one question:

Is it a 44,1 kHz only library - what if we need 88,2 or 96kHz for mastering..?

::
Mads

[mos]

Could someone please explain me how to import the demo files into the free version of nebula for mac?

In the manual it says to import the programs to the nebula folder, the thing is i cant seem to find any nebula folder while it does show up as a VST in reaper.

Thanks!

[redroom]

Originally Posted by mos

Could someone please explain me how to import the demo files into the free version of nebula for mac?

In the manual it says to import the programs to the nebula folder, the thing is i cant seem to find any nebula folder while it does show up as a VST in reaper.

Thanks!

Nebula 3 Free Mac is vst

Okay your Nebula programs go in

System Drive/Libary/Audio/Presets/AcusticaAudio/Nebula3

In there put the Program files into the programs folder
and the Vectors into the verctors folder

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by zaphod

for mac users:
this is the topic
Acusticaudio Forums-viewtopic-Nebula on MAC OSX

in the same thread you'll find links for the free version (starting from page 8). I recommend to read it all if you are interested in buying.
Things will be sorted in a better way soon.

Rather than point to a huge thread I don't understand to hunt for a download link buried somewhere 8 pages in, why not just post the download link here???!!???

The Nebula website, honestly, is terrible too. I never have any idea what I'm looking at, there's about a hundred "free" downloads which make no sense to me, and it's all just way too confusing.

If you want to drive sales and get any interest in this at all, you're gonna have to seriously revamp everything. How freakin' difficult would it be to put a Mac version under the Nebula 3 Free download section on the site? I keep reading everywhere that "yes, Nebula 3 Free is available as a Mac VST!" then when I go to the website it's not there. Not in any logical spot, anyway.

You're losing business because of this, I assure you!

[thermos]

Originally Posted by terminal3

The Nebula website, honestly, is terrible too. I never have any idea what I'm looking at, there's about a hundred "free" downloads which make no sense to me, and it's all just way too confusing.

If you want to drive sales and get any interest in this at all, you're gonna have to seriously revamp everything. How freakin' difficult would it be to put a Mac version under the Nebula 3 Free download section on the site? I keep reading everywhere that "yes, Nebula 3 Free is available as a Mac VST!" then when I go to the website it's not there. Not in any logical spot, anyway.

You're losing business because of this, I assure you!

I agree, absolutely the worst website I've ever seen (the Nebula one). Its one of those clear cases where hiring and paying for a good website designer would increase profits many times over.

I loaded these samples the way Redroom described.

[zaphod]

the reason is very simple: we are trying to avoid the causal buyer, that topic is a sort of filter. If you really need nebula and you can't live without it you'll find a solution there.
Nebula for mac will be released officially later. At the moment we have around 1000 customers for the windows version and around 10 for the mac osx version. So it's better if you test it before buying. A direct link is "too fast".

Who cares about profits. We are just creating good products.

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by zaphod

the reason is very simple: we are trying to avoid the causal buyer, that topic is a sort of filter. If you really need nebula and you can't live without it you'll find a solution there.
Nebula for mac will be released officially later. At the moment we have around 1000 customers for the windows version and around 10 for the mac osx version. So it's better if you test it before buying. A direct link is "too fast".

Who cares about profits. We are just creating good products.

Zaphod, I don't know if I really need Nebula until I try it. And I can't easily do that, so I lose interest - I'm busy!!! I don't have hours to spend trawling websites looking for hidden links to secret products!!!

As someone who actually pays for 100% of their software I'm exactly the kind of customer I would think you would want to cultivate.

I can appreciate that you're doing a soft-launch, and of course I would want to try-before-buying, but you're making that nearly impossible. In fact, in the few minutes I actually spend in that thread you linked to, I still couldn't find a download link.

Say whatever you want and defend it however you want, but good products don't exist without good customers. Do with that thought as you will.

[SWAN808]

Originally Posted by terminal3

Zaphod, I don't know if I really need Nebula until I try it. And I can't easily do that, so I lose interest - I'm busy!!! I don't have hours to spend trawling websites looking for hidden links to secret products!!!

As someone who actually pays for 100% of their software I'm exactly the kind of customer I would think you would want to cultivate.

I can appreciate that you're doing a soft-launch, and of course I would want to try-before-buying, but you're making that nearly impossible. In fact, in the few minutes I actually spend in that thread you linked to, I still couldn't find a download link.

Say whatever you want and defend it however you want, but good products don't exist without good customers. Do with that thought as you will.

with all due respect - you aren't really listening. And I dont think Giancarlo is going to change the entire system to save keeping your business. The deal at the moment - until things are launched properly - you can make the effort to wade thru the stuff and get the plug - or you can wait until the new website is launched and everything is slick.

In many ways - we who use Mac Nebula are lucky that we have access to it pre-launch.

Nebula is a very new and powerful technology and we have been invited into the party while it is still being decorated. I am happy about this-although some find it too clunky.

If you are busy - wait for the official launch when it is easier. Given your impassioned response you clearly want to try it - so why not make a little time to sift through the info...? I think you may find it is worth it.

Also there is a link to the free Mac VST in the 'Has anybody tried Nebula' thread in Music Computers.

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by SWAN808

with all due respect - you aren't really listening. And I dont think Giancarlo is going to change the entire system to save keeping your business. The deal at the moment - until things are launched properly - you can make the effort to wade thru the stuff and get the plug - or you can wait until the new website is launched and everything is slick.

In many ways - we who use Mac Nebula are lucky that we have access to it pre-launch.

Nebula is a very new and powerful technology and we have been invited into the party while it is still being decorated. I am happy about this-although some find it too clunky.

If you are busy - wait for the official launch when it is easier. Given your impassioned response you clearly want to try it - so why not make a little time to sift through the info...? I think you may find it is worth it.

Also there is a link to the free Mac VST in the 'Has anybody tried Nebula' thread in Music Computers.

Perhaps all the forum hype then is unwarranted. If it's still an exclusive club, then I don't think there should be all these forum threads all over the internet, or the banner ads (remember the one that was up right here on GS MONTHS ago saying 'now available for Mac'?)

If it's "more of less" a closed beta, then I think they should keep it that way and act the part. Of course I want to try it. But when everywhere I turn people make it look like it's all good to go then I get frustrated when it's actually not and I can't find it.

Oh, and it's not an ask to change the business model for solely my benefit - I'm just the guy who is speaking up about it. Bet I'm not alone.

[titch.de]

there is a thread for the osx version: Acusticaudio Forums-viewtopic-Nebula on MAC OSX

[zaphod]

Originally Posted by terminal3

Perhaps all the forum hype then is unwarranted. If it's still an exclusive club, then I don't think there should be all these forum threads all over the internet, or the banner ads (remember the one that was up right here on GS MONTHS ago saying 'now available for Mac'?)

If it's "more of less" a closed beta, then I think they should keep it that way and act the part. Of course I want to try it. But when everywhere I turn people make it look like it's all good to go then I get frustrated when it's actually not and I can't find it.

Oh, and it's not an ask to change the business model for solely my benefit - I'm just the guy who is speaking up about it. Bet I'm not alone.

Agreed, the banner was a mistake. Its content was wrong (and even the sentence), fortunately our contract with gearslutz expired. We'll post better banners in the future, I'm sorry for that.

I tought: I'll answer quickly. But I changed my mind, you was so nice, I'll try to explain even better my position.

but before... a little prologue.
Every 2-3 days we receive an email, a post, a message which explains that our business model can't work because our products are too cheap, our website is a mess, and the gui interface a nightmare. Most of them come from other companies, other from possible customers, in general they are very nice and they propose a lot of solutions. I answer politely that a new website is in progress, that we are working on the interface and that I find our business model aligned with what we are really, an indie company.
So you could think that we changed something. No, we didn't. Surprisingly, our sells are growing and growing. I find it quite amazing. Someone should try to study our business model because frankly I don't understand it. We are not doing anything very clever, but a collection of stupid things. Oh well, I suggest a book here: "in the search of stupidity, 20 years of...". If you read that book you'll discover that we are one of the best examples on earth. Of stupidity obviously.
I'll add an other detail here: when I tell someone "this product is not suitable for your needs", don't ask me why, he will buy it immediatly. Within 5 minutes. And I think "oh no, it happened again. Next time I'll suggest to buy it, maybe he will not do it". Incredibly our best customers (users who post on forums answers and praises) were unhappy customers before.

And now the answer.
If you can't read 8 pages on a forum regarding nebula, this product is not for you. I suggest other products and companies here. Waves and UAD or IK mutimedia are very good. Here a short list of what you should expect from my company:
* first of all you should understand what to buy. That's not simple
* than you should register to our forum. Don't think it's easy. It's not. A little button named "finish" is not very visible, so you can't activate your account at all
* than you should read a little disclaimer in the paypal page. Most of our customers can't read it because the font used is too small.
* after buying... nothing. Sometimes your account is not upgraded automatically, so you should contact us via email. Before you need our email address... but where is it?
* than you should understand how to download products. Oh my GOD. 9 pages of downloads splitted in dozens of files. And they can't be downloaded!!! sometimes megauplaod refuses to work. But why are they using megaupload? wtf, rapidshare is better...
* than you should understand how to receive your wonderful unique and dedicated license. Well, before you should send a SER file. But what is a SER file? How to generate it?
* you should install the license. A lot of installers are a piece of cake, but our license executable isn't. Oh well, on mac you should copy files manually. So the right question should be "where".
* than you should learn how to use the plug. Those little arrows are a pain in the a**, and a lot of cryptic buttons without a clear meaning. You may ask in the forum. A lot of customers will try to help you, pointing to hundreds of other topics here and there.


now you'll understand. Those 8 pages are a good filter. They are just the top of the iceberg. I need to answer to every question of all our customers. I couldn't do it if they were 10000 or 100000.
On the other side, if you'll successfully pass all those steps you could think this product is maybe the best on earth. Read topics here and there. If those customers are telling you that the product is amazing BUT before they jumped through the circle of fire maybe they are saying the truth....

[cooker]

Originally Posted by zaphod

Someone should try to study our business model because frankly I don't understand it. We are not doing anything very clever, but a collection of stupid things. Oh well, I suggest a book here: "in the search of stupidity, 20 years of...". If you read that book you'll discover that we are one of the best examples on earth. Of stupidity obviously.
I'll add an other detail here: when I tell someone "this product is not suitable for your needs", don't ask me why, he will buy it immediatly. Within 5 minutes. And I think "oh no, it happened again. Next time I'll suggest to buy it, maybe he will not do it". Incredibly our best customers (users who post on forums answers and praises) were unhappy customers before.

And now the answer.
If you can't read 8 pages on a forum regarding nebula, this product is not for you. I suggest other products and companies here. Waves and UAD or IK mutimedia are very good. Here a short list of what you should expect from my company:
* first of all you should understand what to buy. That's not simple
* than you should register to our forum. Don't think it's easy. It's not. A little button named "finish" is not very visible, so you can't activate your account at all
* than you should read a little disclaimer in the paypal page. Most of our customers can't read it because the font used is too small.
* after buying... nothing. Sometimes your account is not upgraded automatically, so you should contact us via email. Before you need our email address... but where is it?
* than you should understand how to download products. Oh my GOD. 9 pages of downloads splitted in dozens of files. And they can't be downloaded!!! sometimes megauplaod refuses to work. But why are they using megaupload? wtf, rapidshare is better...
* than you should understand how to receive your wonderful unique and dedicated license. Well, before you should send a SER file. But what is a SER file? How to generate it?
* you should install the license. A lot of installers are a piece of cake, but our license executable isn't. Oh well, on mac you should copy files manually. So the right question should be "where".
* than you should learn how to use the plug. Those little arrows are a pain in the a**, and a lot of cryptic buttons without a clear meaning. You may ask in the forum. A lot of customers will try to help you, pointing to hundreds of other topics here and there.


now you'll understand. Those 8 pages are a good filter.

LOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KingDiamond]

All those things about Nebula are funny but true. And I also hated Nebula at first and now I can't mix without it. I even made a cab impulse, you can find it at nebula-programs.com. It's the KingD Mesa 4x12 impulse.

I find Nebula to be sort of like a "test". You learn all these things about how to use it and you have to have patience. But once you pass the "test" you get to mix with one of the best plug-ins available.

[mos]

Originally Posted by redroom

Nebula 3 Free Mac is vst

Okay your Nebula programs go in

System Drive/Libary/Audio/Presets/AcusticaAudio/Nebula3

In there put the Program files into the programs folder
and the Vectors into the verctors folder

Thnks redroom! its working now.

[Tom music]

Speaking of stupid, I never could get the darn thing to work right so I just uninstalled it and am waiting for a improved version for dummies like me ) It was very cheap "price" so I can't say much about that. The people I know that use it love it. I do hope they do improve the gui etc and make it more simple like IK, Uad, Waves etcc.

[mljung]

Originally Posted by mljung

Just one question:

Is it a 44,1 kHz only library - what if we need 88,2 or 96kHz for mastering..?

::
Mads

Ok I found out from Michaels description that many of the programs are made at 96kHz. And some of the demo samples are too. Unfortunately I can't process them here in projects using 96kHz, my CPU is simply not fast enough...

[redroom]

All the aggrevation really is worth it

I own a UAD2/ Powercore / Duende with almost all the optional plugs
I have waves stuff Abbey Roads URS and many more top names

All these plug ins are very good but still lack something special

Along comes Nebula and its hello here is the special magic you want

[Animus]

hey zaphod.

Could you see about getting my ser file processed? I bought on Thursday and finally figured out I was supposed to send that Ser file to you so you should have received it yesterday. thanks I sacrificed 2 chickens too so hopefully that will help. ;-)


I agree. The website and user experience is very unclear and a pain in the ass. Take all the library downloads. There are so many arranged in no rhyme or reason and the mirrors even confuse things even more. And you have to type in a 8 character password for each. You need a FAQ just to read there FAQ. But it seems like Nebula is an awesome technology. AlexB's console stuff is pretty cool. I tried Nebula about 3 years ago and had hoped they would have ironed out all these kinks with the website and product delivery.