Waiting for Melodyne DNA...

[macleodgrant]

Originally Posted by macleodgrant

maybe it's very clever marketing on celemony's part.

maybe they needed financing for the development of the plugin and they knew that people would buy the plugin then to get the DNA version for free when it's released. it's a good deal to be honest as i got it for a discount and they got development cash :-)

based on that rumour, i stand even more firmly by my statement
Celemony DNA could be told to stand in the corner - DV247 Forums

ah well, if it doesn't come to light then they will have to compensate us somehow - ouch

[custom24]

You'd think that someone from Celemony would've shown up by now and debunk this rumor; that is if it's really a rumor...

[JustinAiken]

On their own forum they said this:

Originally Posted by Cladio

Hello guys,

I checked with the Celemony staff. We don't know where this article is from. Not even our Press Officer has ever heard about this magazine. spen83, since you seem to own this issue, could you provide us with a postal address or a website?

Nobody is panicking at Celemony. We know we are late, and that may have raised some speculations. However, DNA still works as intended, and we are happy to invite you to our public beta test that we expect to start in late May or early June. Feel free to try this beta with your own audio files and not just "prefabricated loops".

[slaves666]

I saw it in action at NAMM.

It works.

Be Patient.

[Oroz]

I wonder how the quality of DNA is going to be? I sure hope that it doesn't degrade the audio like their plug-in version tutt.

[elambo]

Originally Posted by macleodgrant

based on that rumour, i stand even more firmly by my statement
Celemony DNA could be told to stand in the corner - DV247 Forums

ah well, if it doesn't come to light then they will have to compensate us somehow - ouch

Looks like Antares (AutoTune) has dusted off their typewriter...

[T_R_S]

Originally Posted by slaves666

I saw it in action at NAMM.

It works.

Be Patient.

With guitars that have heavy distortion?
I never seen them demo that.
Do you have a link?

[feck]

Originally Posted by elambo

Looks like Antares (AutoTune) has dusted off their typewriter...

HAHAHA!!

[The MPCist]

Originally Posted by Cladio
Hello guys,

I checked with the Celemony staff. We don't know where this article is from. Not even our Press Officer has ever heard about this magazine. spen83, since you seem to own this issue, could you provide us with a postal address or a website?

Nobody is panicking at Celemony. We know we are late, and that may have raised some speculations. However, DNA still works as intended, and we are happy to invite you to our public beta test that we expect to start in late May or early June. Feel free to try this beta with your own audio files and not just "prefabricated loops".

Good to hear that. Regarding the misinformation, I wouldn't be surprised if it were a smear campaign by....... a competitor or....

[Ciaccona]

I bet we will have this thread revived in about a year...

[elambo]

Considering the job this plugin claims it can perform, I'm not at all surprised that they found a few snags along the conveyor belt. It's magic after all. Magicians don't hit the stage until their tricks are perfect.

Seriously, this seems like a helluva plugin to write and debug. Their error was mentioning any release date at all.

They did need to show the preview though, if for no other reason to prove that they were first to do it.

[code 10]

Sorry guys/gals if this is a repost. I had a dig about and came across this which is pretty interesting >>DNA UPDATE<<

Had a poke about too on the Celemony forums and the guys there are a bit pissed with the guy who posted the pic from the mag article saying things weren't going well with DNA.

[code 10]

Originally Posted by elambo

Considering the job this plugin claims it can perform, I'm not at all surprised that they found a few snags along the conveyor belt. It's magic after all. Magicians don't hit the stage until their tricks are perfect.

Seriously, this seems like a helluva plugin to write and debug. Their error was mentioning any release date at all.

They did need to show the preview though, if for no other reason to prove that they were first to do it.

Agreed, must be a nightmare to write, it's a total re-write from the ground up, just wish Apple were as forth coming with Logic as Celomony have been with DNA.

[Motion]

If it's true, unlikely imho (this latest spin is just some sort of joke or anti Celemony propaganda and jealousy )

Besides this sort of stuff is not new in the technology business, even if it were true, in by that what I refer to as an example is the video game industry whereby devs have on several occasions rendered their game demos on other hardware and it comes to light later that what people were watching was not the PS3 or whatever crunching in realtime but was otherwise portaying its functional abilities, however the calculations and knowledge of what is possible on the system is pre assessed and they usually can pull it off....eventually!It is certainly easy enough to fake what was being represented with DNA, whether it was real or fake I don't care as long as they deliver in the end.

I would find it hard to believe that this is a con and all the Celemony staff are unaware of what might be going on and or that Peter Neubäcker is some charismatic madman who is feeding them his delusional beliefs...also not the first time that sort of thing has happened in many walks of life and business.

Just some topical fun with parallels:

Remember that talented American entrepreneur guy Preston Tucker Preston Tucker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia An interesting read.Ok so it was a stock thing but at least Celemony are giving you Melodyne now.

A movie about Tucker played by Jeff Bridges in:Tucker:The Man and his Dream was a good watch, in that they portrayed the prototype as functional and working but in reality was mostly a shell.

Tucker: The Man and His Dream - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the end if it is some sort of scam, I would have happily paid just for the buzz The Chet Baker "My Funny Valentine" video alone would be worth it. http://en.440tv.com/video.php/v/1282/Celemony-Melodyne-demo-pt-2

And finally just to see how daft things can get here is a lift from Wikipedia on Max Headroom:

Production notes

Notwithstanding the publicity for the character, the real image of Max was not computer generated. Computing technology in the mid-1980s was not sufficiently advanced for a full-motion, voice-synced human head to be practical for a television series. Max's image was actually that of actor Matt Frewer in latex and foam prosthetic makeup with a fiberglass suit created by Peter Litten and John Humphreys of Coast to Coast Productions in the UK. This was then superimposed over a moving geometric background. Even the background was not actual computer graphics at first; it was hand-drawn cel animation like the "computer-generated" animations in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy TV series. Later in the U.S. version they were actually generated by a Commodore Amiga computer. But when these things were combined with clever editing, the appearance of a computer-generated human head was convincing to many.
On the 1985 episode of I Love the '80s, John Humphreys noted that the head was so convincing that the series pilot won the BAFTA award for graphics.

Maybe Peter Neubäcker is in reality a digital fake?...no pun intended.I personally believe he was made on the Sinclair ZX Spectrum.

[TheBoss]

I happen to know Peter, after few calls I finally got a hold of him. First of all lets put all the rumors to rest. Everything is on track. Release date for beta is the end of May to early June. They are having some stability issues. DNA is one of the most anticipated piece of code so they really would like to make a clear release rather then hiring 100 guys to support useless bugs. Problem they are having at the moment is file compatibility with current Melodyne file format. As language barrier for Peter and my self it was a bit hard to understand everything but this is basically what I have gathered so far and believe in Peter's dream as well as DNA product.

Many imo will be dissappointed in the product as they did not understand as to what DNA really is. While many will be shocked by it as to how DNA is suppose to work.

The folks who will be dissappointed are the ones who think they can manipulate multiple instruments and complete tracks. The folks who will enjoy the product are ones who have simple library of single instruments such as guitar,sax,flutes, vocals, etc etc.

I think the overhype of the product is a bit of a challenge for everyone as people think this will work on all instruments and mixes. DNA will work very well with clean files but once you have heavy doubles its making it a bit challenge to get accurate results. So lets rest all the rumors and fake/hoax publications for the time being and wait till June and start testing beta.

[slaves666]

Originally Posted by T_R_S

With guitars that have heavy distortion?
I never seen them demo that.
Do you have a link?

That was my 1st and only question......

I was told that it is possible, to a certain extent. With the extreme harmonic content of overdriven guitars, you will have to search through a lot of "extra" notes, but the ones you want to move should be there. The less distortion the better......

I have been DI'ing guitars for sometime now as a safety, and in case my sessions get sent to another mixer, and the workaround is simple......just use Melodyne on the DI track, re-amp that, and your done.

[breit72]

Create Digital Music » Rumor Busted: Celemony&rsquo;s Magical Melodyne Direct Note Access Still Real, Coming Soon

[topperf]

Originally Posted by thedommer

WHOA whats that logic 8.1 comment? where are you getting that from? Did bob the one developer on logic 8.1 say he was working on that???? TELL ME MORE!!

Just want to clarify - I don't have any connections to anyone inside Apple - I read this in a post on another music forum and thought I'd share.
In other words: rumor has it that Apple is working on something similar for Logic. if this is true, I dunno, sorry.

[thedommer]

I see. well I hope it is true. Logic is the only daw I really like these days. Id love to see it continue forward.

[A33]

Similar product to DNA you can play with now

improvisator.de

[tobymusic]

Originally Posted by topperf

Just want to clarify - I don't have any connections to anyone inside Apple - I read this in a post on another music forum and thought I'd share.
In other words: rumor has it that Apple is working on something similar for Logic. if this is true, I dunno, sorry.

That would be dead boring. I hope they eventually try to come up with something original instead of trying to recreate functions that 3rd party manufacturers have been offering for years.

Something really unheard of...like...say...a bug-free, reliable and great performing version of Logic :-)

[toon]

Well,

This plug is a must have. My world will be awesome it works like 50% of the time.

[The MPCist]

Originally Posted by toon

Well,

This plug is a must have. My world will be awesome it works like 50% of the time.

Sure would..... "IF" they ever release it, that is...

[work2do]

Originally Posted by tobymusic

Something really unheard of...like...say...a bug-free, reliable and great performing version of Logic :-)

[arimaka]

I bought melodyne partly because of the WOW factor of DNA.... I have used it for many projects and like it ... but if this is all vapor-ware!!!! I'm gonna be angry tutt

[Firechild]

DNA will only be working with instruments with few harmonics, as Clarinet ensembles and stuff. Try to break out the seperate notes in a heavy distorted guitar Cm7 chord , you wish...

[Ciaccona]

it really sucks for the people who bought Melodyne because the add attracted them with a free upgrade. it's kind of a scam, even if they actually release much later.

[sparker]

I guess the short version is, you'd probably rather Celemony took their time to ensure you got a decent release, rather than rushing it out and disappointing those customers that bought Plug In and Studio on the promise of the free upgrade..

I don't think the public beta will be far away.

Steve

[vanpet]

Last time, they said the beta would be out in August 2009. That's now.

Were is the beta? Please, Melodyne, just type some words on your website and tell us when.