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| Gear interested Joined: Aug 2008
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Thread Starter | Cakewalk Announces the SONAR V-Studio: Portable Music Production Studio The second product in the SONAR V-Studio line of integrated hardware and software from Cakewalk and Roland provides a compact, feature rich, music production studio that enables musicians to create, record, produce, and perform music with or without a computer. The new SONAR V-Studio 100 integrates a USB 2.0 Audio Interface, DAW Controller, Digital Mixer, SD Recorder, and VS Production Pack for Mac & Windows! Visit the SONAR V-Studio Line Website: http://www.sonarvstudio.com/100/index.php For more, check out the press release here: Cakewalk Expands Worldwide Distribution PLUS MORE NEWS FROM MUSIKMESSE 2009: Cakewalk® Announces VS-700C V-Studio Console for SONAR 8 Producer In response to customer demand, the VS-700C V-Studio Console, the centerpiece of SONAR V-Studio 700 production system, will be made available separately as a standalone control surface for SONAR 8 Producer. For more, check out the press release here: Cakewalk Expands Worldwide Distribution Cakewalk® Now Shipping New Line of Portable Cable-Based Interface Products The new Audio Interface and three new MIDI Interfaces, announced at NAMM in January, are now available. These interfaces allow musicians of all levels to easily connect instruments to their computer via USB and are Mac and PC compatible. For more, check out the press release here: Cakewalk Expands Worldwide Distribution Cakewalk® Updates SONAR REAC Recording System Driver The Roland Ethernet Audio Communication (REAC) Driver Version 1.1 for SONAR REAC Recording System provides Vista x64 support and compatibility with SONAR 8 Producer. The driver update also provides monitoring support through SONAR V-Studio 700’s VS-700R I/O. For more, check out the press release here: Cakewalk Updates SONAR REAC Recording System Drivers Cakewalk® Announces Rapture 1.2 Update Free download for registered customers includes new Envelope Generator and Tempo features, Vista x64 support, and many usability enhancements. The free Rapture 1.2 Update will be available to registered Rapture customers in late April, 2009 at Cakewalk. For more, check out the press release here: Cakewalk Announces Rapture 1.2 Update Cakewalk® Expands Worldwide Distribution New distribution arrangements extend the company’s reach in Asia, Australia, Latin America, the Middle East, South America, and other regions worldwide. For more, check out the press release here: Cakewalk Expands Worldwide Distribution |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Honolulu HI
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I have to say, the V Studio 100 looks like a really cool piece of gear, depending on how much it costs. I would have suggested it be battery powered for really convenient field use. I wonder, though, if it has multi-track capabilities? It mentions being able to play to backing tracks, assuming that you could mix that down live. Obviously you could import a bunch of stems tracked independently to the same backing track or metronome into a DAW, but could you track and mix 4 instruments, 8, 16... on the fly or via bounce down for a little portable song writing tool? I also wonder if this device will record timecode via MTC into the MIDI port. This would open it up for use in video production, although I'm not sure it would be this devices strength considering the number of professional products already on the market, unless its price can leverage itself into the indy marketspace. |
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2006
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wow, where are all the posts??? this is the coolest thing at musikmesse, and im a pro tools user. concept wise, and the look of the build...this thing is amazing. god i wish digidesign would make something like this!
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| Gear maniac Joined: Sep 2007
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| Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Honolulu HI
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I'm really digging the "without a computer" features of the device. I think that is where it shines. I just never thought that a computer is the right tool for a remote gig or impromptu recording. $699 is right on the inflection point of cheap / expensive for me, especially as I already have good field recorders and battery operated preamps, but for someone just starting out, it looks like a good premium entry level solution.
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| Gear nut Joined: Dec 2008
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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Montreal
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Look really Good The Control surface is very appealing to me. Don't care much about the ''away from computer'' features and the mic pres. VX-64 looks really cool Wish they can make a 4 fader control with act , no pres, no live recording. Just a nice control surface -Alxi- |
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| Gear nut Joined: Feb 2009
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Was excited by the control service, and restored my faith in cakewalk listening to its customers. Then saw on their forum a target street of $2500. Yaaaaay...Booooo ![]() They almost got it right. I would think the price will ensure that it will fail in the market. I also think it really undervalues the other components of the integrated package -- for an additional $1500 you get software, converters with pres, and a hardware synth. They are trying to compare it to the euphonix stuff - but those products have i think a built in mark up for design aesthetics and brand name/history. I would consider a more fair comparison to be the mackies. Add a bit of a premium for integration and maybe you have $1500. The fact that it seems like there is no expansion to more faders is a major drawback. And you look at some other adjacent products with equivelant though not identical features (A&H Zed R-16, digi command 8, various digital mixers) and you gotta scratch your head thinking who this product will be geared towards. |
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| Gear interested Joined: Mar 2009
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You must be looking at something different, Monty. The V-Studio 100 is only $699. The V-Studio rack unit is $2k, and the VS-700, the big control surface/ I/O /synth, is $4200. The VS-100 looks pretty sweet as a portable control surface and I/O for using with Sonar (though it says compatible with most DAWs). Roland's not known for making preamps (and Boss is known only for their effects), so one can only assume they've used Edirol-designed pres in it...but it has ADAT in, so you can always bring a rack or lunchbox with you. The rest of it looks pretty sweet though. |
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| Gear Head Joined: Jan 2009 Location: South Wales
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nah he's talking about the V700 console as a standalone device without Sonar 8, I/O and Synth. Cakewalk have posted on their forum it should be on sale with a street price of $2400.
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| Gear addict Joined: Mar 2006
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now that is good news... the console looks dope for people who already have converters! | |
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| Gear addict Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 350
| Amazing! You folks birthed a winner!
This really is quite an accomplishment for Cakewalk/Roland. The software update to full produicer 8.3.1 is $399. Full mix and mastering suites included and all kinds of other neto guitar, bass and synth stuff included. For a grand you have an 8 Track portable interface writeable on up to 32 GB flash cards at 24/96 IO at $105 each. What more does one need on the fly? No laptop, no fuss no muss. Transfer it all back at the studio onto a mini computer with Sonar, or Nuendo, or Digi, and whatever your fave UAD URS T5 or SSL plus you use and go nuts with it. For those who don't need anything more than 24/44.1-48 the TASCAM 2488 NEO rocks and can be linked very nicely via MTC send and return. For those who want higher cleaner fidelity recordings this box is a godsend. I'm exploring right now how to sync several together in realtime on the road for 32-48 tracks in realtime. And all at @ 64 BIT? Cakewalk/Sonar/Roland. You guys rock! I'm just a tad disappointed that the V-Studio700 didn't have a stand alone capability with 32GB Flash Card capability. They spent so much hardware space on ADAT AES and everything else connectivity that they forgot the simpicity of a stand alone recorder/controller interface with 8 XLR Mic Inputs? Oh snap! Maybe V.2.0? Hurry up and upgrade it. Its already overdue LOL. You kidding me? No firewire, no high end high cost Apogee, Lynx-Aurora, or anything else interfaces. Those can become later in the mastering chain if necessary. Plug in and go! Go go go! Yeaah! This technology rocks! ![]() ~skygod~
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Sweetwater has the controller for $2500. Cakewalk VS700C | Sweetwater.com I'm curious as to whether you can bypass the pres via the 1/4" inputs. This unit really looks good. The only bummer for me is I'm a Mac man and a PT lifer. I've tried to leave that DAW, but it's so ingrained in my melon that trying to pick up another is just torture. Logic was like calculus for me. U–G-L-Y. But I must say this all-in-one has my gear lust stoked ridiculously high. Wheels
__________________ "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." -Hunter S. Thompson 1937-2005 http://soundcloud.com/wheelomatic |
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| Gear interested Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 22
| Almost but no cigar,
You know, I gotta agree with everything llmonty said: It is outright stupid to price this stand alone controller that much higher than a Mackie Control Universal; which is proven, reputable, expandable and conforms to all major DAWs. I just flashed by this at Sweetwater n' it looks tempting but if you decide to go for another DAW or work with two DAWs for more specific needs you're sh#t outta luck wit' you're workflow, compatibility, n' resale value. Digidesign has more affordable control surface options and I'm definitely not a fan of theirs as far as pricing/features go. The Roland VS hardware synth looked interesting but they screwed that up by not making it it's own unit. I gotta put my my faith in Edirol converters, really?? The V-Studio bundle seems aimed to appeal more novice, less experienced, or entry-level. Not to denograte by any means but most active musicians/recording engineers should and could have at least a couple if not all these bases( interface, converter, synth, control surface ) covered more affordably even possibly beter performing too. So for that market, it's way overpriced compare to a Digi 003 bundle; as a whole this Cakewalk bundle shouldn't be higher than $3,000. The goal is to win over customers from the similar level product but insanely effective marketing campaign that is pro tools. Me, I'm stickin' wit' Sonar 8, Mackie Control, Lucid 88192, Motif ES rack( I bought used ) To each his own, |
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| Gear interested Joined: Nov 2009
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Well,.... I was starting to get excited until I read the following in the review at Musician Friend: "Now for the negitives. I am not that impressed with the stand alone wave recorder. When it is unpluged from the machine you can record onto a SD card. I put an 8 gig card into the reader and tried it. even though you can use all 8 inputs to record a track remotely without a computer. You can only record one mono or one stereo track at a time." I'm just taken back how and why these companies are charging so much for so little. |
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| Gear addict Joined: Dec 2009
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I'm selling my v studio for only 400 dollars brand new with everything. Pm me if interested
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