Duende V3 - Page 2

divingduck · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by Football

Boy, I'm sure interested but this doesn't exactly instill confidence in me still seeing these posts years into this things life span. Hopefully this version 3 is going to be pretty darned stable... like pretty much any friggin' native plug I purchase (even inexpensive ones)!

Time to really step up to the plate SSL programmers.

Mine's working great. That's a lot of bad luck Eddie seems to have had.... He could always buy my humble G5 setup off me!

hugol · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by cane creek

Yep its making the card look more and more like an expensive dongle

No different to UAD then......

powlow · 2nd April 2009

Lets hope they make a PCMCIA Duende for laptops...now that would be cool!

eddierodriguez · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by divingduck

Mine's working great. That's a lot of bad luck Eddie seems to have had.... He could always buy my humble G5 setup off me!

you´re working on 44.1, i guess.

show me a single setup, that works at 96k at least more than 50% loaded.

divingduck · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by eddierodriguez

you´re working on 44.1, i guess.

show me a single setup, that works at 96k at least more than 50% loaded.

Yep, 44.1. Does nobody have a working 96k setup? Sorry it's not workingfor you.

Firechild · 2nd April 2009

Wow ! Great news ! Hope the click that always occur before an audiofile start playing will be gone with native processing!
Hope UA will follow too!!!!

thermos · 2nd April 2009

I just have to say who cares if its an expensive dongle or what. The Pcie card is roughly in the same ballpark pricewise as the Waves SSL bundle, and the bundled channel strip and bus compressor sound so much better its not even fair. Definitely reasonably priced.

lordnielson · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by thermos

I just have to say who cares if its an expensive dongle or what. The Pcie card is roughly in the same ballpark pricewise as the Waves SSL bundle, and the bundled channel strip and bus compressor sound so much better its not even fair. Definitely reasonably priced.

And if they get the double-your-tracks-with-native-cpu feature working 100% you could actually say that it's twice as good a dongle as the UAD one thumbsup

Hide · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by HugoL

No different to UAD then......

Still big difference for me.
I have no expresscard (technically I have but no empty slot).
Then I can use Duende via Firewire but can't UAD.

elambo · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by Football

Boy, I'm sure interested but this doesn't exactly instill confidence in me still seeing these posts years into this things life span. Hopefully this version 3 is going to be pretty darned stable... like pretty much any friggin' native plug I purchase (even inexpensive ones)!

Time to really step up to the plate SSL programmers.

I take it as solid evidence that there's something else going on. All those attempts and still no workie? I'm 5 for 5 (5 Duendes) - others seem to be more or less golden with a few that aren't, as with any product.

Don't worry, they wrangled in the bulk of the problems a few software versions back and have improved upon it several more times since then. A lot of people don't realize this, mainly due to negative posts on GS by people who stopped using it before the revisions. A sampling of Duende users would prove the high success rate. Unfortunately it didn't work for everyone, regardless of their efforts, but I think that number has shrunken quite low now.

elambo · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by eddierodriguez

oh....

classic, mini, pcie

pthd, ptle, logic, nuendo, cubase

pc, mac

over the years 15+ motherboards, 15+ pci and pcie fw-cards

up-to-date 2.5.9 pc, 2.6.0 mac

need more infos, dabbler?

Yes, you could address the one thing I asked -- "which was the last version of their software you used?" This makes all the difference in the world.

elambo · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by divingduck

Yep, 44.1. Does nobody have a working 96k setup?

Yes. Search GS and you'll see that there have been problems, but some people are getting it to work. In general, classic Duendes aren't working well at high sample rates. I wonder how V3 will do in this respect. With the load shared between their card and the host CPU it may have a better chance.

rhythminmind · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by divingduck

Yep, 44.1. Does nobody have a working 96k setup? Sorry it's not workingfor you.

I have a working 96k setup with all expanded slots loaded & using a Duende Mini (16 channels @ 96 - 32ch @ 48k . I know allot of the PCIe users are successful as well.
I had problems at 1st but all it took was a PCIe firewire card install. No different then the hardware config games you have to do with UAD. This is why they don't even risk a firewire release. There are to many 1/2 ass non-audio friendly 1394 chipsets.

eddierodriguez · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by elambo

Yes, you could address the one thing I asked -- "

i did

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Originally Posted by rhythminmind

I have a working 96k setup with all expanded slots loaded & using a Duende Mini (16 channels @ 96 - 32ch @ 48k . I know allot of the PCIe users are successful as well.

well, it didn´t work for many users. also mini and pcie didn´t work. depends on your daw and the size of your projects. and if you use mono only, stereo only or mono and stereo duende-plugs.

it´s unbelievable, that duende should work on V3 with 96 channels at 96k...

maybe it´s working, or i´m hoping so, but i won´t be one of the first users like i was back then.

Heartfelt · 2nd April 2009

Love my PCIe. I always wondered though if I should have gotten waves... not anymore. Thank God.

elambo · 2nd April 2009

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Originally Posted by eddierodriguez

i did

Yes, indeed you did.

soundgeezer · 3rd April 2009

I'm hearing V3 does not work on PCs with AMD chips ?

powlow · 3rd April 2009

that's right. they're clearly saying its intel chips only...

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Originally Posted by soundgeezer

I'm hearing V3 does not work on PCs with AMD chips ?

mavano · 3rd April 2009

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Originally Posted by powlow

that's right. they're clearly saying its intel chips only...

They are clearly not saying that...

"Duende V3 requires Intel Core 2 (or equivalent power processor for PC owners) or Intel Mac based (for Mac owners) computers to run. Customers with computers utilising older, or lower powered processors will not be able to run Duende V3 software or run the new generation of SSL plug-ins."

So AMD phenom processors should work also.

powlow · 3rd April 2009

weird...
I watched the video from musikmesse and the SSL guy says intel only.
He says "will only run on Intel based machines which is one of the caveats of V3"
maybe he means the X-Verb?

YouTube - SSL Duende V.3 & X-Verb - MusikMesse 2009

mavano · 3rd April 2009

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Originally Posted by powlow

weird...
I watched the video from musikmesse and the SSL guy says intel only.
He says "will only run on Intel based machines which is one of the caveats of V3"
maybe he means the X-Verb?

YouTube - SSL Duende V.3 & X-Verb - MusikMesse 2009

go to 2:57 and onwards. He (briefly) mentions AMD as well. I think he uses the name "Intel" mostly for the MAC owners. They only know te terms "intel" and "PPC". Anything else would probably confuse them...

halfguard · 3rd April 2009

id love to get a duende but my imac has only 2 fw ports. ive got my duet on one and my audio drive on the other. do all of you have mac pros???

Heartfelt · 3rd April 2009

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Originally Posted by halfguard

id love to get a duende but my imac has only 2 fw ports. ive got my duet on one and my audio drive on the other. do all of you have mac pros???

Nope... AMD Quad Phenom with smooth running PCIe

sigmatibet · 4th April 2009

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Originally Posted by halfguard

id love to get a duende but my imac has only 2 fw ports. ive got my duet on one and my audio drive on the other. do all of you have mac pros???

You are in a no-go I'm afraid.
I had duet, drives and 2xDuendes. No way they could collaborate.
I thought it was Duendes blame, but I then discovered It was duet's bandwidth hunger.
The main problem for your iMac is that you get 2 FW ports, but on just one FW Bus.

halfguard · 4th April 2009

i know, kinda sucks.........for me.....

Entrainer · 4th April 2009

I'm actually disappointed by this move. I don't need 128 channels. I'm fine with 64.

I bought the Duende so my CPU would be free for other things, like synthesis or convolution reverb. They should allow people to make a choice between hybrid or only DSP acceleration.

I'd love to hear the X-Verb, but I doubt I'll upgrade to v3 if it taxes my CPU.

DCommand · 4th April 2009

I agre, we already have alot of issues with the cpu in PTHD8, so if this will require alot of cpu it will be even worse than the firewire solution

When is it downloadable?

findingtheSound · 4th April 2009

Hi!
Just want to understand a thing:

If i've upgrade my duende mini from 16 to 32 channels in V2 (two month ago), will I get 64 channels in V3 for free as buyers of duende mini expanded pack?
...
I hope so, but it's not clearly said in ssl's website...

SCDBM · 4th April 2009

when is V3 supposed to be available for download?

Entrainer · 4th April 2009

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Originally Posted by findingtheSound

Hi!
Just want to understand a thing:

If i've upgrade my duende mini from 16 to 32 channels in V2 (two month ago), will I get 64 channels in V3 for free as buyers of duende mini expanded pack?
...
I hope so, but it's not clearly said in ssl's website...

No. The V3 software is free, but it costs money to expand the channels. I imagine it's a code that opens channels on the CPU for you.

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powlow Gear Head Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Barcelona Posts: 59	Lets hope they make a PCMCIA Duende for laptops...now that would be cool! Last edited by powlow; 2nd April 2009 at 05:21 PM.. Reason: spelling

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Heartfelt Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 2,434	Love my PCIe. I always wondered though if I should have gotten waves... not anymore. Thank God. __________________ Robert Smith Houston, TX www.RobertSmithMusic.com

4th April 2009	#57
DCommand Gear addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 321	Entrainer I agre, we already have alot of issues with the cpu in PTHD8, so if this will require alot of cpu it will be even worse than the firewire solution When is it downloadable?

4th April 2009	#58
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2nd April 2009	#36
Firechild Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,033	Wow ! Great news ! Hope the click that always occur before an audiofile start playing will be gone with native processing! Hope UA will follow too!!!!

2nd April 2009	#37
thermos Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 3,552	I just have to say who cares if its an expensive dongle or what. The Pcie card is roughly in the same ballpark pricewise as the Waves SSL bundle, and the bundled channel strip and bus compressor sound so much better its not even fair. Definitely reasonably priced.

3rd April 2009	#47
soundgeezer Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 653 1 Review written	I'm hearing V3 does not work on PCs with AMD chips ?

3rd April 2009	#52
halfguard Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: south fla Posts: 1,148	id love to get a duende but my imac has only 2 fw ports. ive got my duet on one and my audio drive on the other. do all of you have mac pros???

4th April 2009	#56
Entrainer Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,425	I'm actually disappointed by this move. I don't need 128 channels. I'm fine with 64. I bought the Duende so my CPU would be free for other things, like synthesis or convolution reverb. They should allow people to make a choice between hybrid or only DSP acceleration. I'd love to hear the X-Verb, but I doubt I'll upgrade to v3 if it taxes my CPU.

4th April 2009	#59
SCDBM Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,281	when is V3 supposed to be available for download?

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