New Mac Pros Are Out

[Football]

Apple

No firewire 400 though?

Is there some adaptor from 400-800? Meaning how would a Apogee Duet work with these?

[YUGA]

WOW Finally 16cores!!!


yeah you only need a FW400->800 adapter.

[DCV_Musik]

Originally Posted by YUGA

WOW Finally 16cores!!!

Where did you see 16 core? I only saw 8 cores.

[DCV_Musik]

Firewire 400 is history, at least for Apple. Manufactures with firewire 400 interface should be looking to update to firewire 800.

[YUGA]

Originally Posted by DCV_Musik

Where did you see 16 core? I only saw 8 cores.

ah my bad. I missinterpreted it
hmmm, this upgrade seems not very exciting...
the clock is lower but the price is higher.

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by YUGA

ah my bad. I missinterpreted it
hmmm, this upgrade seems not very exciting...
the clock is lower but the price is higher.

nehalem is crazy faster than the previous platform, whatever it was called.

people have to start disregarding clock speeds, they're not nearly as important as they once were.

[YUGA]

Originally Posted by terminal3

nehalem is crazy faster than the previous platform, whatever it was called.

people have to start disregarding clock speeds, they're not nearly as important as they once were.

yeah hopefully...
here's the performance test. but no Space Designer test thist time...
Apple - Mac Pro - Performance - See how the Mac Pro measures up, when put to the test.

[Silver Sonya]

As far as audio production goes, the power in the new top-of-the-line Mac Pro is absolutely insane. An ungodly amount of power. We're now getting into an interesting area where computer power is going to make multitrack 24/96 audio production feel as light and agile as word processing.

Why the hell anyone would buy a TDM system now is beyond me.

The only people who really need this kind of powerful computer are people working in the film world, real-time 3D graphics rendering, etc.

- c

[JustinAiken]

Wow, they must be somewhat important if people are willing to pay $1400 more to go from 2.26 to 2.66 GHZ!!

[lllubi]

would like to know the geekbench results for the new 2.66 single Quad
could have the same power like older 8cores for less money

[Ol' Betsey]

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

Why the hell anyone would buy a TDM system now is beyond me.

Cue the usual arguments...



(But I know exactly what you mean...)

R.

[gongbass]

I Just bought a Mac Pro 8 Core 3.2 (for like $4,200 and that was with 10% off) in January! I should have known. These are faster and over a grand less! My new Mac Pro is way more computer then I even need but still.

The only positive is they didn't change the appearance. So it won't be the "just bought a G4 a month before the G5" came out.

[etherize]

I need a mac pro ASAP. I know digi takes forever to officially support new macs. I'm hoping someone somewhere will test these with a protools hd system. Or should I just get the old macs?

[jayman]

Originally Posted by etherize

I need a mac pro ASAP. I know digi takes forever to officially support new macs. I'm hoping someone somewhere will test these with a protools hd system. Or should I just get the old macs?

Well, that's the thing.... I'm betting it's going to take a good 3-4 months or MORE, and a couple of system software updates before audio software of any kind is happy on these new machines. It won't be like just jumping to a speedier mac... install/authorize, done.

With the guts of this new machine being completely different from the recent mac pros, I'm betting software companies are going to have to catch up.... not to the extent of a G5 - IntelMac transition, but I'm betting it will take a while before these are usable.

[etherize]

Yes but haven't these processors been out on the windows side for a while? Maybe be some pc users have some heads up.

[Silver Sonya]

Originally Posted by gongbass

My new Mac Pro is way more computer then I even need but still.

This is the most interesting thing that is beginning to happen in 2009. Mac Pros are now more powerful than almost anybody needs in professional audio.

- c

[Gordon]

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

The only people who really need this kind of powerful computer are people working in the film world, real-time 3D graphics rendering, etc.

Plugin manufactures need to step things up a notch. Give us something for all these cores to chew on, the emulations can get better it they don't have to worry as much about CPU usage.

[TEMAS]

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

Mac Pros are now more powerful than almost anybody needs in professional audio.

- c

Evidently you don't use VSL

[TEMAS]

Originally Posted by gongbass

I Just bought a Mac Pro 8 Core 3.2 (for like $4,200 and that was with 10% off) in January! I should have known. These are faster and over a grand less! My new Mac Pro is way more computer then I even need but still.

Well the new top of the range model is $5,899, so its quite a bit more expensive than yours.

[work2do]

Apple's pricing in a recession are beyond me.

[solidstate]

I've got the 8 core 2.8 with 8GB of ram, a duende and uad-2 quad. I have few good hardware compressors and EQs. I don't see myself upgrading for the next 3-4 years

[clonewar]

At least now they have (or will have, not available yet) an ATI Radeon HD 4870 for the Mac Pro.. that's a really nice little quiet upgrade, and the 2008 Mac Pros support it!

[Nicholas Varley]

Originally Posted by TEMAS

Evidently you don't use VSL

+1


Anyone who does seriously use VSL has been praying for 64 bits since day one....

[LeMauce]

Originally Posted by solidstate

I've got the 8 core 2.8 with 8GB of ram, a duende and uad-2 quad. I have few good hardware compressors and EQs. I don't see myself upgrading for the next 3-4 years

Im in the same boat. The power is ridiculous even with 90tracks full Waves SSL, 6 reverb altiverb, 8 effect buss's. Its picking its nose with 70% full load. For the money for the upgrade I buy new mic's and pre-amps

[purplesky]

So how much of a performance difference is there with this new 8 core Mac Pro from last years 8 core? I dont think the average user would notice the difference. By the time all the software catches up we will be into a another Mac Pro. This is alot of cash for a computer that most software in 2009 wont run much different from last years 8 core for $500 less which will be on sale now. The bench tests might be impressive for running alot of reverb or something but am I wrong here? Maybe I am in denial because I have last years 8 core! I bet sales will be sluggish on this thing at these prices even for Pro users.

[solidstate]

Originally Posted by LeMauce

For the money for the upgrade I buy new mic's and pre-amps

word

[hmurchison]

Originally Posted by etherize

Yes but haven't these processors been out on the windows side for a while? Maybe be some pc users have some heads up.

No ..windows boxes have been using the desktop enthusiast version called Bloomfield or Core I7. This proc only supports a single socket.

These new dual proc systems have the Xeon versions which have faster processor interlinks and of course support two processors. Speeeeeeeeeeeeeed.

Originally Posted by konkaos

Apple's pricing in a recession are beyond me.

The recession is becoming the lamest excuse for asking for a discount. If your livelyhood depends on fast turnaround of clients and billing it's easy to justify to an expensive computer.

Originally Posted by purplesky

So how much of a performance difference is there with this new 8 core Mac Pro from last years 8 core? I dont think the average user would notice the difference. By the time all the software catches up we will be into a another Mac Pro. This is alot of cash for a computer that most software in 2009 wont run much different from last years 8 core for $500 less which will be on sale now. The bench tests might be impressive for running alot of reverb or something but am I wrong here? Maybe I am in denial because I have last years 8 core! I bet sales will be sluggish on this thing at these prices even for Pro users.

Genererally about %15-20 on the average. Some heavy encode stuff is as much as %40 faster. The memory performance is much faster as well because the controller is right on the dame die as the CPU.

It's a beast and will last most people years. Things get even better when Apple delivers the next OS release this year which has been optimized for multicore Intel Macs and allows developers to thread their applications easier than before. Pretty soon some of you will be pegging all 8 cores.

[YUGA]

Originally Posted by hmurchison

Genererally about %15-20 on the average.

Then, the previous 2.8GHz model would be faster than the current 2.26GHz model...

2.26*1.2=2.712

[thedommer]

Originally Posted by YUGA

Then, the previous 2.8GHz model would be faster than the current 2.26GHz model...

2.26*1.2=2.712

there are also other things updated that help the speed out to so I dont think this is accurate. either way the prices are to high and Im still happy with my 8 core I bought last year this time.

[hmurchison]

Originally Posted by YUGA

Then, the previous 2.8GHz model would be faster than the current 2.26GHz model...

2.26*1.2=2.712

Apple's site says it's a 2.66Ghz I think there must be a misprint somewhere.