New MCDSP Retro series

[recall]

Just got the new issue of Sound on Sound. There is a full page advert for a new range of MCDSP plugins going by the name "retro"

The GUI looks excellent. I can't tell if it is an integrated channel strip with 4 band eq, filters and a compressor or if it is two units (compressor and eq)

The compressor has a mix settingthumbsup

They are advertised under the headline "better than hardware"

Says it will be launched at winter NAMM 2009.

Very interesting, I hope it has character in bags.

Pagee 99 BTW

[macleodgrant]

Originally Posted by recall

Just got the new issue of Sound on Sound. There is a full page advert for a new range of MCDSP plugins going by the name "retro"

The GUI looks excellent. I can't tell if it is an integrated channel strip with 4 band eq, filters and a compressor or if it is two units (compressor and eq)

The compressor has a mix settingthumbsup

They are advertised under the headline "better than hardware"

Says it will be launched at winter NAMM 2009.

Very interesting, I hope it has character in bags.

Pagee 99 BTW

i wonder if it will be AU

[UnMix Studio]

Originally Posted by macleodgrant

i wonder if it will be AU

Winter NAMM is enough time to go AU. If not, I will give up on McDSP for good.

[tobymusic]

Thanks for the info! Could you post a picture?

Why McDSP is limiting themselves to RTAS/TDM is beyond me. Even though they make some nice sounding plug-ins, and even though I'm on PT HD, I stay away from them just for this very reason. No AU, no VST, no good.

toby

[computa]

Originally Posted by tobymusic

Thanks for the info! Could you post a picture?

Why McDSP is limiting themselves to RTAS/TDM is beyond me. Even though they make some nice sounding plug-ins, and even though I'm on PT HD, I stay away from them just for this very reason. No AU, no VST, no good.

toby

u use PT HD but refuse to use the plugs because they dont have versions for AU and VST which doesnt affect you?

[lydpik]

Anyone seen this advert on the internet, would like to see a picture of it?

[futur2]

why they start advertising this now is beyond my grasp?

[Stiff]

Originally Posted by tobymusic

Why McDSP is limiting themselves to RTAS/TDM is beyond me.

AFAIK they're still working on AU versions. Keep in mind that they have a huge amount of plug-ins to port.

[UnMix Studio]

Originally Posted by Stiff

AFAIK they're still working on AU versions. Keep in mind that they have a huge amount of plug-ins to port.

That was the word since 2007. Not being hard on them, but I doubt AU is a priority for McDSP.

[dbjp]

Originally Posted by computa

u use PT HD but refuse to use the plugs because they dont have versions for AU and VST which doesnt affect you?

Haha.

It's like having a Mac but refusing to use OSX because it can't be installed (legally) on a windows pc.

[recall]

I haven't got a scanner i'm afraid. Here are some pics:

[prismtheory]

Awww snap and it's better than hardware!! woo hoo.

[UnMix Studio]

With the way the advertise themselves as "PRO AUDIO PLUGINS FOR PRO TOOLS" i doubt they'll ever go AU.

[prismtheory]

Originally Posted by UnMix Studio

With the way the advertise themselves as "PRO AUDIO PLUGINS FOR PRO TOOLS" i doubt they'll ever go AU.

They'll probably make going au a priority when business starts to slow down for them. I personally don't have too much experience with their stuff. I own analog channel, but I never really use it. Studios I have worked in have all of the other stuff...but I just never got comfortable with it the sound or the user interface.

[recall]

I think they are a company which get forgotten, or overlooked a bit. All of their products are excellent and do their job very very well.

I'm finding Analog Channel to be more and more useful. AC2 I am using on this one track as the main compressor and tone shaper. Messing with the bias and the speed/formulations to shape sounds which were recorded on location.

It's doing something a plain old compressor/eq chain just can't do for me.

[K-Slash]

Looks hot !

Damn that it's Pro Tools only, because this channelstrip is interesting...

[d1rtynyc]

Originally Posted by recall

I think they are a company which get forgotten, or overlooked a bit. All of their products are excellent and do their job very very well.

I agree, but as soon as they get AU, VST compatablity they will blow up.
I am not certain why it has taken so long when the rewards would be so great for McDsp.

[semtek]

Originally Posted by d1rtynyc

I agree, but as soon as they get AU, VST compatablity they will blow up.
I am not certain why it has taken so long when the rewards would be so great for McDsp.

Clearly none of you remember what happened when Massey tried to port his plugs to AU? It's not AT ALL straight forward. Given the amount of effort involved, and the amount of AU plugs available which fulfil similar roles, I can well understand why they might not do this.

[Volodia]

And I'm sure there are much less people using cracks in PT world than in VST world .

[SammyD]

Certainly looks better than hardware.

[Dubster]

I have written to McDSP in the past and asked if there are plans to make AU versions, and if I remember correctly, the answer was yes, but I don't know how high on the priority list it is. That having been said, I would think that it would make good business sense to use this forthcoming channel strip plug as a chance to introduce AU versions. I don't know how big of a dent URS CSP has made in demand for plugs like CompressorBank, but I suspect this new plug is aimed at going head to head with stuff like the CSP, and the ability to run the URS plugs in every host certainly adds value for those like myself who switch between DAWs a bit. I hope they do introduce AU versions soon!

[Barbary Ape]

I wouldn't hold my breath for AU versions any time soon. I emailed McDSP about the AU porting of their plugins last week and they told me that they are still looking into it, they haven't started any development yet.

[computa]

Originally Posted by recall

I haven't got a scanner i'm afraid. Here are some pics:

nice. looks to be an improved channel G. and mix knob on comp section- wonderful. simulations of ssl, neve, api, etc. i suppose

[hipass]

Originally Posted by tobymusic

Why McDSP is limiting themselves to RTAS/TDM is beyond me.

Because 95% of the market uses Protools. I work all over the world and I have have only even seen Protools in the studios where I have worked. I have never been asked for anything else other than Protools. I am the only one that ever uses Logic in my own studio. No client has ever requested it.

[joshelevator]

Originally Posted by hipass

Because 95% of the market uses Protools. I work all over the world and I have have only even seen Protools in the studios where I have worked. I have never been asked for anything else other than Protools. I am the only one that ever uses Logic in my own studio. No client has ever requested it.

there are a few people using plugins outside of studios.

[tobymusic]

Originally Posted by hipass

Because 95% of the market uses Protools. I work all over the world and I have have only even seen Protools in the studios where I have worked. I have never been asked for anything else other than Protools. I am the only one that ever uses Logic in my own studio. No client has ever requested it.

In Europe, you won't get that far with Pro Tools. Most of the producer studios or music production teams actually still use Logic Pro. The PC guys use Nuendo/Cubase.

Anyways, even if you record and mix in Pro Tools, there still is a need for AU or VST. For Mastering for example. Not being able to use your favorite plug-ins in Waveburner, Soundblade or Peak IS a reason not to buy these plug-ins.

Toby

[tobymusic]

Besides, if they really want to release a new EQ/comp plug-in it better be REALLY good - it's not that there were no nice EQs or compressors out there for Pro Tools...


p.s. thanks for posting the photo of the ad!!

[semtek]

Originally Posted by joshelevator

there are a few people using plugins outside of studios.

Yeah but honestly in big well-established studios you rarely see anything other than pro-tools, and this is where the money is for a company like McDSP. The large majority of home studio owners aren't interested in spending hundreds of bucks on a compressor when they get one bundled with their daw.

[macleodgrant]

Originally Posted by hipass

Because 95% of the market uses Protools. I work all over the world and I have have only even seen Protools in the studios where I have worked. I have never been asked for anything else other than Protools. I am the only one that ever uses Logic in my own studio. No client has ever requested it.

this is most likely in the top studios but they don't represent the majority of this sector and that's certainly not necessarily where the money is

most of the money comes from people in the their home studios and smaller setups as they would certainly represent the majority
What Plugin Format You Using? - let's get the numbers

the tide has changed and sure, the top studios are using pro tools but things have changed and people are going the more economical route to save money but also because it's no longer necessary to run a TDM pro tools system - unless in certain circumstances - though there are other options now

with logic pro & metric halo +DSP 2882 you can achieve practically all benefits that a TDM system would offer - this would be 100% true if the logic programmers sorted...bla bla bla

not a Logic vs Pro Tools but certainly they would make a lot more money if they offered other formats - their loss though

[lllubi]

Originally Posted by Volodia

And I'm sure there are much less people using cracks in PT world than in VST world .

Steinberg bought Syncrosoft some weeks ago
there are no cracks for VSTs using Syncrosoft´s dongle

McDSP is too close to Digidesign dont think they will port to
VST which is in ownership of Steinberg