Mellowmuse ATA 1.2 RTAS (video) Auto Latency Fix

[computa]

Nice & simple. UAD-2 5.2 w/ RTAS support around the corner. Will see some monster PTLE 8 systems coming

http://mellowmuse.com/ata-demo.html

[mattrixx]

Nice solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in 2008! Well done!

[scanner]

Originally Posted by mattrixx

Nice solution to a problem that shouldn't even exist in 2008! Well done!

Point taken, but respect to Gary for making such an elegant solution.
I'm suprised there hasn't been more of noise about the release of the RTAS version.

my $00.02 =

nice one mellowmuse !

[soundrick]

It's very cool.

I tried to "make some noise" about it in another thread, then some guy came along to rain on my parade by telling me I should post everything that happens on the Mellowmuse forum and I don't understand "community".
Like some kind of hall monitor for the forum.
So, I let it go.

anyway.........
The cool thing about this, is that even if Digi does do ADC soon, I think Gary's solution is much more ACCURATE. If he could get his plug access to the internal bussing of PT, then I say ATA is unstoppable.

GO GARY, GO!!!

[hobson]

oh boy.. waiting for this plug... however, in the video you linked above - Gary is calling up the ATA plug from a wrapped plugins folder (VST) - so this is not a true example of RTAS format..... wait for it... wait for it...

[eboy]

that vids a little old, i'll put up some new ones soon -
It is native win/osx RTAS now, or did you just mean its not a video of the RTAS...?

[matta]

Originally Posted by soundrick

So, I let it go.

Clearly you didn't... and you didn't make any noise... there wasn't a product to make noise about yet if you RE READ your post: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-p...y-pt-le-9.html

You BUMP a thread with NO INFORMATION while others have been patiently waiting info on the arrival of the RTAS port and then you call it NOISE... even though you stated you read the Mellowmuse Forum... but didn't bother to quote it on GS and give fellow GS's an update on what was shared there... how is that noise or promoting a product, I think it was rather unhelpful.

I commend Gary on the RTAS version, looking great and look forward to the next update.

Matt

[Oroz]

Originally Posted by computa

Will see some monster PTLE 8 systems coming

http://mellowmuse.com/ata-demo.html

Yeah, since ATA is taking one plug-in slot I wouldn't want to be left with only 4 plug-ins per channel (on certain tracks like vocals is pretty common to fill up the slots), with PT8 that won't be a problem thumbsup. PT LE will definitively get very powerful.

[soundrick]

Originally Posted by matta

Clearly you didn't... and you didn't make any noise... there wasn't a product to make noise about yet if you RE READ your post: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-p...y-pt-le-9.html

You BUMP a thread with NO INFORMATION while others have been patiently waiting info on the arrival of the RTAS port and then you call it NOISE... even though you stated you read the Mellowmuse Forum... but didn't bother to quote it on GS and give fellow GS's an update on what was shared there... how is that noise or promoting a product, I think it was rather unhelpful.

I commend Gary on the RTAS version, looking great and look forward to the next update.

Matt

My buddy's kid is pretty good with the arts & crafts, I'm going to have her make you an "Internet Forum Etiquette Police" badge, just to make it official.

You keep fighting the good fight, Tiger!! thumbsup

[kdeuce]

I'm a little late finding out about this plug, but thank God somebody did it! Assuming ATA works well, Avid/Digi must now imagine all the money they'll never see since they ignored LE users who have begged for ADC. They could have easily charged $50 for an ADC update.

Not bashin Digi, cuz I love my PTLE but damn, not havin ADC has been BS & most LE users (assumption) don't have $10K+ to drop on HD to get it! I have no idea how the licensing/RTAS thing works & maybe Digi gets a piece of ATA sales--whatever, I'm just glad Mellowmuse seems to have filled a HUGE void in LE land.

[sevendaysoff]

Originally Posted by soundrick

My buddy's kid is pretty good with the arts & crafts, I'm going to have her make you an "Internet Forum Etiquette Police" badge, just to make it official.

You keep fighting the good fight, Tiger!! thumbsup

man that was funny.

[galaga]

Originally Posted by Oroz

Yeah, since ATA is taking one plug-in slot I wouldn't want to be left with only 4 plug-ins per channel (on certain tracks like vocals is pretty common to fill up the slots), with PT8 that won't be a problem thumbsup. PT LE will definitively get very powerful.

Not really trying to rain on the parade here; I'm loving the ATA and think it's great. But I'm hoping that PT8 (LE) doesn't become too much of a hog. I say this from past experience. When I moved from single to dual core, I had a window of time where the added power was fantastic. It wasn't long at all before new versions of PT and plugs ate up that power and I was "proportionately" right back where I was. Same thing at quad core. Now I have been enjoying 8 cores and not even approaching maxing out the CPU; even with many soft synths running during a mix. I certainly understand that everything progresses and changes; the power I have today won't last as things progress. So based on past experience, I can't help but wonder just how far PT8 will knock me back in the area of CPU usage. ATA has been great with no noticeable CPU overhead. Who knows what the Digidesign method and implementation will be like.

[nukmusic]

maybe the new RTAS version will be INCLUDED in the digi-rack plugin bundle in Version 8.0 .......that's after Mellowmuse gets some type of royalties.

[hobson]

Originally Posted by eboy

that vids a little old, i'll put up some new ones soon -
It is native win/osx RTAS now, or did you just mean its not a video of the RTAS...?

Gary - i simply meant to convey that the video is old and not a current preview of the unwrapped RTAS development.

good times are just around the corner though -

ATA, coupled w/ the 10 plugin inserts improvement of PT8 will definitely bring a chorus of hallelujah from many PT users.. let's face it - for me it's (1) insert used up for ATA as well as a second insert used up for TRIM plug... this will still leave (8) inserts available... more than enough.

thanks! Gary for your hard work.

[C Heat]

Originally Posted by nukmusic

maybe the new RTAS version will be INCLUDED in the digi-rack plugin bundle in Version 8.0 .......that's after Mellowmuse gets some type of royalties.

And then a refund to those who recently purchased it...?

[DONNX]

Digidesign needs to pay this guy for solving one of their biggest issues.

[galaga]

Originally Posted by C Heat

And then a refund to those who recently purchased it...?

To each his own, but since Digi has stated that delay compensation won't initially be in PT 8, but be added at some "later" stage........what Mellowmuse charges is to me quite reasonable to have in the meantime. I wish all plugs were this useful yet reasonably priced........and I even got the FXpansion wrapper, too. Now I can play around with some VSTs in my spare time.

[C_F_H_13]

Originally Posted by matta

Clearly you didn't... and you didn't make any noise... there wasn't a product to make noise about yet if you RE READ your post: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-p...y-pt-le-9.html

You BUMP a thread with NO INFORMATION while others have been patiently waiting info on the arrival of the RTAS port and then you call it NOISE... even though you stated you read the Mellowmuse Forum... but didn't bother to quote it on GS and give fellow GS's an update on what was shared there... how is that noise or promoting a product, I think it was rather unhelpful.

Really? Give the guy a break.

I can't wait for this ATA plug to be RTAS. I've been demoing the VST (wrapped) version and I'm absolutely loving it. Being able to run some of my outboard gear on and LE rig is pretty awesome. Now I wish I had more I/O.

[C Heat]

Originally Posted by C_F_H_13

Really? Give the guy a break.

I can't wait for this ATA plug to be RTAS. I've been demoing the VST (wrapped) version and I'm absolutely loving it. Being able to run some of my outboard gear on and LE rig is pretty awesome. Now I wish I had more I/O.

It IS now RTAS.

[eboy]

I'm working on an update now that will get rid of the need for dry buses, it'll make it much easier and flexible to use.

[Sofine]

Gary, that's great news. No bypassing sends, no dry auxes - great. When will your plugin do our mixes for us!

[topperf]

Originally Posted by eboy

I'm working on an update now that will get rid of the need for dry buses, it'll make it much easier and flexible to use.

which means my only worry will be what I put into LE - that's almost a scary thought Thanks man!

[Micah Tolentino]

omg I could kiss you mellowmuse guys.

You guys should be given some kind of Gearslutz award.


like a "Slutty" or something.



WOW, new macs and LE with ATA = unstoppable.

[nukmusic]

PT 8 comes with 10 inserts per track right?

[tws]

Any of you guys having problems getting this to work with Drumagog?

It doesn't seem to compensate for its latency.

[T_R_S]

2 - Drumgog solutions
1) Better Record down your Drumagog tracks when you see how bad Drumaog tracks you will probably prefer this as Drumagog floats quit a bit.
2) Used a fixed latency Drumagog then hard bypass it then add a time adjuster to simulate the Drumagog Latency - Ping - Deactivate Time Adjuster then Active Drumagog fixed Latency

[PoorGlory]

Originally Posted by tws

Any of you guys having problems getting this to work with Drumagog?

It doesn't seem to compensate for its latency.

-Use fixed latency
-Before pinging, leave Drumagog active (i.e. don't bypass it), but turn the blend knob all the way down to zero. This leaves Drumagog (and it's latency) running, but lets the original signal through to continue the ping. Don't forget to reset the blend knob to where you want it after the ping.

[tws]

Thanks for the tips.

I'm actually using this is LE so I dont have the option of using fixed latency.

I'll give it a try.

[PoorGlory]

Originally Posted by tws

Thanks for the tips.

I'm actually using this is LE so I dont have the option of using fixed latency.

I'll give it a try.

You should... I'm in PT LE as well. After version 4.03 I think, Drumagog started offering a fixed latency version in addition to the regular version so delay compensation in DAWs with ADC would be easier. Now that us LE users can do delay compensation with the ATA, use the fixed latency version of Drumagog.

[ryst]

Originally Posted by nukmusic

PT 8 comes with 10 inserts per track right?

You are correct, sir.