Iso Cab

[Energie]

Here is a new iso cab company I ran across for fun. Seems a bit more affordable I guess.. anway..


Grendel Sound Dead Room

[GrendelSound]

Originally Posted by Energie

Here is a new iso cab company I ran across for fun. Seems a bit more affordable I guess.. anway..


Grendel Sound Dead Room

Just checking out our statistics and saw we got a few hits from here. Letting you guys know we do exist right here, real people, ready to answer your questions!

Alex Knappenberger
Owner, Grendel Sound

[George Necola]

how much is it`?

[Geert van den Berg]

Originally Posted by George Necola

how much is it`?

Look at the bottom of their webpage, It's 359 dollar unloaded and 399 loaded with a speaker.

[Pasta4lnch]

I like that you can use more than one mic. this kind of steered me away from the others I saw when I was looking for one a few years ago. I did however end up going w/ a vocalbooth 4X12 iso cab. It works great, but I think the design could be a little better. . .

this looks like a really cool product!!

[TheArchitect]

How does it differ from the Randall cab?

[rebuskyle]

Originally Posted by TheArchitect

How does it differ from the Randall cab?

Someone left one of the Randall cabs at my studio recently and I've been blown away at how useful it is. The sound really isn't boxy at all and actually sounds pretty "big." I've used a number of different mics/pres with it and nearly all of them sounded great!

NOW...I didn't really think I'd ever purchase one of these, but last week the guy came to pick it up and I've seriously been thinking about getting one.

I really like the fact that you can use 2 mics with this unit. I'm not sure if the Randall unit does 30 db of reduction, but it probably comes close if not.

Either way...this looks like a great cabinet!
-Kyle

[TheSweetener]

Originally Posted by TheArchitect

How does it differ from the Randall cab?

It's almost looks the same. With the Randall (which sounds quite cool) you can only use one mic. The Randall has a Vintage30. What's a WGS veteran 30 by the way?

[GrendelSound]

Originally Posted by TheSweetener

It's almost looks the same. With the Randall (which sounds quite cool) you can only use one mic. The Randall has a Vintage30. What's a WGS veteran 30 by the way?

Warehouse Guitar speakers import the hard parts of the speakers from asia, and the soft parts from england, and then assemble them by hand here in the USA. Celestion on the other hand has been making their speakers in China for sometime now. Tone is subjective but if you've heard an "original" Vintage 30 by Celestion when it was made in England compared to the now Chinese made ones, there is a bit of a difference. They are still making fine Chinese speakers for sure but for us the USA made Veteran 30 clone absolutely blows them away especially for recording.

It's mostly how the speaker is voiced in the upper midrange that makes the difference.

[GrendelSound]

Originally Posted by rebuskyle

Someone left one of the Randall cabs at my studio recently and I've been blown away at how useful it is. The sound really isn't boxy at all and actually sounds pretty "big." I've used a number of different mics/pres with it and nearly all of them sounded great!

NOW...I didn't really think I'd ever purchase one of these, but last week the guy came to pick it up and I've seriously been thinking about getting one.

I really like the fact that you can use 2 mics with this unit. I'm not sure if the Randall unit does 30 db of reduction, but it probably comes close if not.

Either way...this looks like a great cabinet!
-Kyle

Thanks and I'm glad you had a good experience using the Randall. If you liked the Randall though you will definitely love ours and if I say any more about that it will probably be illegal. They're definitely a great company and we have a handful of Randall heads in the shop.

[GrendelSound]

Just wanted to let you guys know we dropped the prices! Get in while its hott

Alex

[Charlie_M]

I already have an iso cab and love it, so I'm not in the market for one of these but I really like the idea of having it set up for two mics. I've been considering adding a second mic to mine for some time - good to see someone has it out there. Wish that was available back when I got mine. Iso cabs are great tools I think. Only thing you lose is the room sound which I think the second mic should help with a lot. Good luck with this innovative product.

Charlie

[JMWS]

If you liked the Randall though you will definitely love ours

What if you don´t like the Randall isocab, you will not like this either?

[slaves666]

I have the Demeter Cab and I love it.....I have the vintage 30 model and modded it to have 2 Mics, cost me around $375 including the MOD. I think they offer a stereo version too.....check it out here....

Demeter Amplification Products

[GrendelSound]

Originally Posted by JMWS

What if you don´t like the Randall isocab, you will not like this either?

I said if you LIKED the Randall you will LOVE ours because it's a lot better, didn't think I had to clarify that.

Alex

[GrendelSound]

Originally Posted by slaves666

I have the Demeter Cab and I love it.....I have the vintage 30 model and modded it to have 2 Mics, cost me around $375 including the MOD. I think they offer a stereo version too.....check it out here....

Demeter Amplification Products

Looks like a good product but the thin padding for absorption as well as the bad dimensions (30"x18"x18") already tell me how it's going to sound. Also why does it weigh so little, 50lbs loaded? Our iso cab (dead room) without casters is only 29"x18.5"x16" and comes in at about 80lbs loaded. Also the handles on that are on the wrong sides for me, looks like a back breaker.

Edit- Also the use of recessed handles should be forbidden on an isolation cabinet because well, it's supposed to be as quiet as possible. With recessed handles you cut out a square in the wood to insert the handle into. They are nice and completely normal on regular guitar cabinets but on an isolation cabinet we're talking about sound leakage through the handles. Doesn't seem thought out. We use surface mount handles for that reason.

Also we're selling ours for $289 unloaded and $339 with a high quality V30 clone that is excellent for recording.

[chrisp2u]

Originally Posted by GrendelSound

Just wanted to let you guys know we dropped the prices! Get in while its hott

Alex

Hey Alex,
How long is the price drop gonna last? I'm definitely interested in picking one of these up, but it likely can't happen til after I recover from holiday spending.
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[GrendelSound]

Originally Posted by chrisp2u

Hey Alex,
How long is the price drop gonna last? I'm definitely interested in picking one of these up, but it likely can't happen til after I recover from holiday spending.
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Probably well into February.

[joeyjazz]

Originally Posted by GrendelSound

Probably well into February.

It's back up to $360 from $340 on your site (and the $330 you were selling it for on ebay), do we have to email you seperately to get the sale price up until February?

I was holding out on placing my order until after the holidays before placing my order to make sure I had taken care of all the bills and whatnot, was looking to order one of your dead rooms within the next week or so.

[slaves666]

Originally Posted by GrendelSound

Looks like a good product but the thin padding for absorption as well as the bad dimensions (30"x18"x18") already tell me how it's going to sound. Also why does it weigh so little, 50lbs loaded? Our iso cab (dead room) without casters is only 29"x18.5"x16" and comes in at about 80lbs loaded. Also the handles on that are on the wrong sides for me, looks like a back breaker.

Edit- Also the use of recessed handles should be forbidden on an isolation cabinet because well, it's supposed to be as quiet as possible. With recessed handles you cut out a square in the wood to insert the handle into. They are nice and completely normal on regular guitar cabinets but on an isolation cabinet we're talking about sound leakage through the handles. Doesn't seem thought out. We use surface mount handles for that reason.

Also we're selling ours for $289 unloaded and $339 with a high quality V30 clone that is excellent for recording.

I know you're trying to sell your product but......"thin padding for absorption as well as the bad dimensions (30"x18"x18") already tell me how it's going to sound"

Seriously....If you are going to knock a product, please at least do your research and try one, then comment.

I am very happy with mine, and is silent enough. It sit beside my DAW, and while tracking I don't have to boost my mains to hear the guitar.

Anyways.........good luck with your product.

[Autocrat]

Looks like they raised the prices instead of offering a discount:

Grendel Sound Dead Room

[chrisp2u]

Originally Posted by Autocrat

Looks like they raised the prices instead of offering a discount:

Grendel Sound Dead Room

The shipping is $5 cheaper now though.
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[legacy00]

I ordered one of the Grendel iso cabs. I have a Carvin Legacy 100 watt head that starts sounding good with the volume at around 3.5-4. This is incredibly loud so I'm hoping this iso cab can help me record more often without pissing everyone off. I'll post some clips in a few weeks when it arrives.

[darkwater]

Originally Posted by legacy00

I ordered one of the Grendel iso cabs. I have a Carvin Legacy 100 watt head that starts sounding good with the volume at around 3.5-4. This is incredibly loud so I'm hoping this iso cab can help me record more often without pissing everyone off. I'll post some clips in a few weeks when it arrives.

Be careful running a 60 watt speaker with a 100 watt head, unless you are going to put your own speaker in the box.

Let us know how this works out. I'm very interested.

[TRA]

Originally Posted by darkwater

Be careful running a 60 watt speaker with a 100 watt head, unless you are going to put your own speaker in the box.

Let us know how this works out. I'm very interested.

No problem using a 100watt head with a 60 watt speaker.

[slaves666]

I got a Marshall PowerBrake..... Helps a lot.

[joeyjazz]

Originally Posted by TRA

No problem using a 100watt head with a 60 watt speaker.

Yup, you want your speakers to break up before your amp is pumping square waves into them. Trouble would be clipping a 60 watt amp into a 100 watt speaker.

Too many red flags with Grendel for me to want to try their cab out, I think it might be best to just get the Randall and toss some rigid fiberglass into the lid to help cut out the boxiness.

[darkwater]

Originally Posted by TRA

No problem using a 100watt head with a 60 watt speaker.

oooookay, then

[legacy00]

Originally Posted by joeyjazz

Too many red flags with Grendel for me to want to try their cab out, I think it might be best to just get the Randall and toss some rigid fiberglass into the lid to help cut out the boxiness.

Such as.....???

[legacy00]

Originally Posted by darkwater

oooookay, then

You can also run it at 50W, which is probably what I'll do for the iso cab.