New Isotope Noise Reduction-

[charles maynes]

I guess no one caught this at AES....

looks pretty cool- they have a nice discount for early adaptors as well...


iZotope, Inc - Audio Processing Technology and Plug-Ins for Pro Tools, VST, MAS, Audio Unit, and DirectX


No, I do not work for them.


Charles Maynes

[Rob King]

The demo's sound really good.

[Baithak]

I was impressed with the demo at AES too. The tools are well designed and I am really happy that there is a choice between the Waves plugins that I have and the Algorithmix stuff that I was at AES to check out.

Yes, it is only 199 till the end of the month.

Baithak

[Matti]

After quick demoing I´d say this is really good, the spectral editing
or what´s the term, is similiar to Algorithmix and the declipper best ever!
Have to play more...

Matti

[Matti]

Up, this is good
After the free demo and my worst samples of sfx

Matti

[noiseflaw]

Fantastic! and for an introductory $199 price it's even better.

[santacore]

This looks really nice. If it performs it's a no brainer especially at the introductory price. The nearest competition is SoundSoap Pro which is decent, but far from dynamite. I'll try out the download. If it's good, I think I'll grab a copy to use at home. Now that I think about it, isn't this cheaper then DINR???? Wow, that's crazy.

[JamieMB]

Samplitude and its newly announced version 10 have a spectral cleaner along with the usual suite of noise tools which sound really great.

[macleodgrant]

if you buy this, once they release plugin versions you will get those for free...plugin versions of this application will be nothing short of amazing! if only they could also be integrated into the sample editor.

[mljung]

Originally Posted by JamieMB

Samplitude and its newly announced version 10 have a spectral cleaner along with the usual suite of noise tools which sound really great.

Yes but in Samplitude, you actually have to buy this extra; it's an add on to v10, so maybe the RX solution is simply better, even if you [as I do] use Samplitude!

[Matti]

Algorithmix has more options (Spectral repair in iZotope terms) but for the price this is really good and has more processes on the same interface +
Declipper is the best I´ve heard.

Matti

[wildpark]

i mean algorithmix is much easyer too use

but its much expensiver !

from my first try of rx i mean its a nice program how could rule the restauration marked in the 1k price area.

pat

[Matti]

Actually I find iZotope faster to use than Alcorithmix after two days of occasional playing with the demo,but I don´t own the latter, so lack of practice. Alc. has these harmonics and overall more options for rebuilding the waveforms and costs some 3500$ (?).

Matti

[wildpark]

3.5k algorithmix !? id look at the net and most resellers wil 2k or 1.6 for it

but i mean its all the way too expensive so iall wait for a ebay licence

[Matti]

RenoVator 2490€ = 3,530.19 USD, I remembered about right

Matti

[Gemylon]

A bit off topic maybe, but...

Anyone know what these can do in comparison ?

Wave Arts Master Restoration

G

[thermos]

Originally Posted by Gemylon

A bit off topic maybe, but...

Anyone know what these can do in comparison ?

Wave Arts Master Restoration

G

Those are really terrible. Truly.

I'm gonna download this izotope one. Is there a huge difference in quality of the basic functions between the $200 one and the 1k one?

[K-Slash]

Originally Posted by thermos

Those are really terrible. Truly.

I'm gonna download this izotope one. Is there a huge difference in quality of the basic functions between the $200 one and the 1k one?

When you mean terrible, you mean bad ?

[Baithak]

Originally Posted by thermos

Those are really terrible. Truly.

I'm gonna download this izotope one. Is there a huge difference in quality of the basic functions between the $200 one and the 1k one?

Thermos: Got to partially agree about the Waves stuff. I have been using them for a
good while now and if the NR tools were used gently, the results were OK but even
the slightest bit of aggressive noise removal resulted in fairly bad distortions to the main
sound. The Izotope tool beats it hollow.

I checked at AES, there is no difference in the strength of the algorithm between the basic and high end version. The high end program has a few more controls for manual adjustment, a tool to change sample rate and bit rate and one more thing that I forget. For pure noise reduction, I decided to go with the $200 version.

Baithak

[thermos]

Originally Posted by K-Slash

When you mean terrible, you mean bad ?

No, haven't you heard? Terrible is the new great, as bad once was. Bad has been used to mean good for too long, time for an update with the slang.

Baithak, Wave Arts is different than Waves. The Waves ones aren't the worst, but the Wave Arts ones sure are. Thanks for the comparison. I think I'll have to pick up the $200 version.

[thermos]

Wow, the demo sounds great. Definitely gonna pick it up.

[peeder]

Just got in at the bell on the $199 intro offer...This suite is awesome. There are a few things that could be improved, for instance, it could be a plugin, and some of the UI nested dialog issues could be merged into one dialog, but the functionality is stellar, and the price!

[fifthcircle]

Downloaded the RX demo and played around with it... I went anywhere from moderately impressed to not impressed at all. I suppose it is with the price, but don't expect super high end results from it.

I basically liked the hum remover- especially the Q and harmonic control to such precision. I didn't really play with the spectral thing as the Spectral repair in Sequoia works quite well for me and I don't have to leave the program. The dehissing was really second rate, IMO. Useless for anything beyond the lightest hiss without artifacts. Decrackling/declicking once again were too difficult to get the artifact-free control that I need.

Compared to the expensive "pro" tools out there (Audio Cube, Cedar, Algorithmix), RX has a LONG way to go. Compared to the mid-level stuff, it is hit or miss, IMO. The debuzz is worth it, but I have better tools for everything else with my Powercore Suite and the new tools that come with Sequoia 10.

--Ben

[Stiff]

Originally Posted by peeder

Just got in at the bell on the $199 intro offer...This suite is awesome. There are a few things that could be improved, for instance, it could be a plugin,

I think a plug-in version is coming and will be free to stand-alone purchasers.

[Whitecat]

it's funny, I'm reading really mixed things about this suite. some people seem to think it's not that hot, whereas others love it.

for those that don't like the denoiser, have you tried algorithm C? A is OK for preview and to 'get an idea' of what it's going to do but 'C' cleans it up better with far fewer artifacts.

anyway, I did buy it after demoing, and I think it's rather fantastic. I had to cleanup some 35mm film clips that were done in the noisiest studio you've ever been in, and it was nothing short of miraculous. I would first run a full declick with the settings almost all the way up. then, the denoiser worked with an absolute minimum of artifacts - only on some of the most quiet actors could I hear any flanging or the other sorts of nonsense you get with low-end aggressive noise reduction. where it was problematic, I simply would back off on the NR and it was generally solved. from there, the spectral repair was easy and it eliminated so much of the background cr*p that the mics picked up, in addition to handling noise/rustling from a lav mic - and it's seamless.

the built-in EQ even provided a quick n' easy fix for a couple of the shots where one actor was on a lav mic and the other on a boom - getting an EQ match between them was easy and fast.

I've used soundsoap pro almost exclusively in the past - not necessarily because I think it's the best but because it fit my workflow and I got it with Peak Pro XT anyway.
it will now only get used on very light cleanup work - the RX suite is doing a much, much, much better job at a third of the price. I've demoed or tried other solutions (including Sony/Sonnox, Waves, and of course I have DINR LE which is rubbish) - this beats all of those. Whether it can beat Algorithmix, I don't know, I'm on a Mac.

anyway, I give this program a hearty thumbsup and I highly recommend it if you're in the market for these sorts of tools. even $349 now is a good price, if you can bear to fit it into your workflow. plug-in versions will be great, I'm sure that if algorithm 'C' is available in plug-in form it will have to be audiosuite, render times are loooong, but the results are worth it. it's gotten a scary amount of usage since I picked it up, and that's gonna continue.

[DrDeltaM]

Originally Posted by terminal3

it's funny, I'm reading really mixed things about this suite. some people seem to think it's not that hot, whereas others love it.

I think that has to do with the point of reference for people. For some the reference is some DAW build-in restoration, for some it's Waves Restoration, for some it's Cedar Audio. Obviously the impressions of Izotope are gonne be different in those 3 cases

[macleodgrant]

i checked this out but i would really like to see better more intuitive waveform editing tools. as it is, you need to zoom all the way and move one vertices at a time but the neighbouring ones aren't affected. this is ok in some instances

i wish you could also edit the waveforms more like splines with fewer vertices and use drag handles to shape the waveform.

it would also be nice if you had an option to use the gain operation on a selection whereby the center of the selection is increased/decreased by the absolute value you choose but eases out towards the ends of the selection so makeing a smoother volume increase/decrease

what do you guys think

[matt thomas]

I bought it and am really pleased with the results after playing around with it for about an hour on a noisey vocal take.

I have found it to be quite buggy so far. A couple of times I had to restart it as it slowed down so much, and the quick keys that show up when you mouse over buttons don't work, although maybe this is just me doing something wrong, I've only just started using it.

However it seems the pros outwiegh the cons, and hopefully with updates the scales will be tipped even further

narco