26th September 2007
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#2 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: south fla
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looks cool |
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26th September 2007
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#3 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2005 Location: Basel, Switzerland
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Cool product idea!
But, as with all TL products, I wonder what the "2 tube stages" actually do, besides adding toob-appeal.
__________________ André ___________________________________________ "Recording exactly what a musician hears turns out to be a really big deal." Bob Olhsson "Who cares about efficiency, when we're talking about music?" Rupert Neve
"it'll sound different through a microphone, anyway" Keith Carlock "no room, no boom!" Michael Wagener |
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27th September 2007
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#4 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto
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I really like my TL valve pres. They have kicked serious ass for drums in the past. If you run them to clip they produce some cool tones and serious colouring.
Running these guys into the red's has appeal whereas running a focusrite into the reds doesn't really do much but sound bad.
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27th September 2007
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#5 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2004 Location: An Australian in London
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Curious form factor.
A channel strip with sends but no compressor?
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27th September 2007
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#6 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa
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No talkback?
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27th September 2007
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#7 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2007
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interesting
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27th September 2007
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#8 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: North Mylon
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Very interesting.
And it looks cool as well...
G
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27th September 2007
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#9 | | Gear Head
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK
Posts: 62
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Again... No Talkback!! To be that's the difference between buying one of these things and not... Not enough of these low/mid end products have talkback built in and to me it's a really important feature!
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1st October 2007
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#10 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 54
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Thanks for all your comments guys!
Just a little info for you...
The Fat Track has been designed using the feedback we get from customers about how they work, what they love about our current products and how they'd like to use them.
The 2 input channels have been based on our larger consoles, using the same preamp design and smooth sounding British EQ. The inputs can be used for mic (inc 48V), line and inst for greater flexibility and a phase reverse switch also makes them ideal for stereo micing. The channels also feature balanced inserts, FX send and direct outputs.
Then it gets real interesting... :-)
Once you have finished tracking, you can then use the desk in two different ways...
Either bring back your stereo mix through the line inputs for some EQ adjustments and then maybe patch in a compressor / limiter over the blanced inserts on the stereo bus for mastering; or why not group your mix in Pro Tools / Logic etc into drums, guitars, BV's and bring them back onto the stereo returns, with maybe your lead vocal and bass on the mono channel faders? This way you can benefit from some analogue goodness for the final mix down and mastering. it has long been argued the advantages of 'summing' in analogue, and the fat track provides you with a very easy way to do this and get fantastic results.
With 2 headhones outs and 2 monitor speaker options its easy to work with, and as for talkback, you can assign either one of the channels as the talkback mic and use the mute to in/out. The 1 st headphone follows the master section whereas the 2nd headphone always follows the stereo bus, enabling you to set up a different mix for your artist or yourself. The channel also gives you the benefit of being able to EQ the talkback to pronounce the frequencies of your voice and enabling you keep the volume of the talkback mic low to aim to prevent damage to the artists ears - how thoughtful ;-)
You can even see the tubes glowing through the vents as you work...
I know i'm waffling now, but if anyone has any questions, feel free to get in touch!
Sarah Yule
Int. Sales Manager
TL Audio
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1st October 2007
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#11 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 959
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Originally Posted by SarahTLA ...as for talkback, you can assign either one of the channels as the talkback mic and use the mute to in/out. | Any use in a two mic/stereo situation? Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahTLA You can even see the tubes glowing through the vents as you work... | Yay! Toobs!!!
Ouch...tough crowd! Cool enough looking little box...but it really could have used a dedicated talkback. Not a talkback mic...just the facility to add one without losing a chanel!
Oh yeah...being able to EQ my voice is of little concern in matters talkback. Certainly not worth losing a chanel over. Erm...sorry, I can't record your guitar in stereo...but doesn't my voice sound fantastic? |
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1st October 2007
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#12 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 54
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Originally Posted by Realtugs Any use in a two mic/stereo situation?
Cool enough looking little box...but it really could have used a dedicated talkback. Not a talkback mic...just the facility to add one without losing a chanel! | Point taken, i guess nothing is perfect... but nearly :-)
In most recording situations the Fat Track is more than capable of delivering the goods... and is less than half price of our smallest mixer the M1 tubetracker.
The features on offer, together with the sound make this a really cool addition to almost any DAW set up.
If anyone is heading to AES, come and see me on booth no. 867 where we will be showing it off together with the launch of a brand new series....
I'll be happy to let you take a look and answer any tough questions ;-)
We will also have Gorillaz / Collie Budz Producer Curtis Lynch Jnr. on the stand with our large format, in line, VTC mixing console.
Thanks,
Sarah.
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1st October 2007
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#13 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 21
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Originally Posted by SarahTLA
...and is less than half price of our smallest mixer the M1 tubetracker. | How much the Fat Track will cost ? do you have a estimated price ?
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2nd October 2007
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#14 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden
Posts: 2,854
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I have heard €1700.
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2nd October 2007
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#15 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 54
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Originally Posted by oune How much the Fat Track will cost ? do you have a estimated price ? | Hi,
The Fat Track will retail for £999 UK / $2195 US / €1500 EU and will be shipping in November this year.
If you PM me your location, i can put you in touch with your local supplier / distributor or alternatively, look on our website :-)
Thanks,
Sarah.
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2nd October 2007
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#16 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 54
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Originally Posted by SarahTLA Hi,
The Fat Track will retail for £999 UK / $2195 US / €1500 EU and will be shipping in November this year. | Obviously, this is an estimate and may vary due to change in exchange rates / shipping costs... but gives you an idea... ;-)
S.
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2nd October 2007
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#17 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 959
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Originally Posted by SarahTLA Obviously, this is an estimate and may vary due to change in exchange rates / shipping costs... but gives you an idea... ;-)
S. | Thanks for all the info, Sarah.
Always nice to see manufacturers keeping an eye on the slutz!
All the best.
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2nd October 2007
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#18 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden
Posts: 2,854
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Originally Posted by SarahTLA Hi,
The Fat Track will retail for £999 UK / $2195 US / €1500 EU and will be shipping in November this year. | Oops! Sorry then |
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2nd October 2007
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#19 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 959
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Originally Posted by Stiff Oops! Sorry then  | Don't apologise...you could have said €1300. |
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2nd October 2007
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#20 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Lelystad
Posts: 729
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It seems like just a very small two track version of their mixing consoles.
But more interesting is that they anounce a new black series at the AES.
Does anyone got pictures or some other pre info.
Paul
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2nd October 2007
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#21 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 161
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An M/S converter on it would have been useful too.
I'm just glad it came out now, three years ago I might have bought one, and it would be sitting gathering dust with the other TLA tube classics I have.
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8th October 2007
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#22 | | Gear interested
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 21
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Originally Posted by SarahTLA Point taken, i guess nothing is perfect... but nearly :-)
In most recording situations the Fat Track is more than capable of delivering the goods... and is less than half price of our smallest mixer the M1 tubetracker.
The features on offer, together with the sound make this a really cool addition to almost any DAW set up.
If anyone is heading to AES, come and see me on booth no. 867 where we will be showing it off together with the launch of a brand new series....
I'll be happy to let you take a look and answer any tough questions ;-)
We will also have Gorillaz / Collie Budz Producer Curtis Lynch Jnr. on the stand with our large format, in line, VTC mixing console.
Thanks,
Sarah. | Sarah, It was good meeting you at AES today. The Fat Track seemed awesome. For the November release, will Vintage King be the main distributor?
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12th October 2007
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#23 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 54
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Originally Posted by Wizdom Sarah, It was good meeting you at AES today. The Fat Track seemed awesome. For the November release, will Vintage King be the main distributor? | It was great to be there and have a chance to meet the huge number of people who came by the stand. The Fat Track was certainly very popular and i'm glad you though it was 'awesome' ;-)
When the product starts shipping, Vintage King will be the main supplier for the US and have some of the first production allocated, if you contact Ryan or any of the reps at Vintage King, they will be happy to help you further.
Thanks,
Sarah.
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16th June 2008
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#24 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2005 Location: Jersey
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So, anyone used one? Worth the cash for someone trying to have a less digital sound from things like the Elektron Monomachine and Machinedrum...?
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18th July 2008
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#25 | | Gear interested
Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Istanbul Turkey
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I've had one around for a review the last week . To be frank I haven't been the biggest fan of TL product's and I did not have great expectations when I went to pick up the fat track , but I am totally sold !! I am not the most experinced slut around , but I've had my share of dull DAW results , from the moment I've passed a bus thru this puppy I said gimme more , went ahead and pushed this baby hard and still great results (meaning 6 channels reding the meters). The instrument input sounds lovely  .. The EQ are far beyond anything like you'd find on a compact mackie or soundcraft , but it would have been nice to see another parametric on the strips .. if you are working with managable, bus friendly mixes its a great way to have an outboard summing option too . Not crazy about the styling but it feels like a well built piece of kit . love the large knobs , hate the blue LED !!!! .. For a thousand pounds there could have been bigger meters maybe , with nicer material for the covers instead of cheapo plastic . Overal as I brought it home, I was thinking I woundn't want it laying around, now I am thinking if the distributer would give me a deal if I write a good review :P
its great to be posting for the first time  I am feeling slutty already |
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1st September 2008
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#27 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2005 Location: Jersey
Posts: 1,185
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So, what's the verdict on this? Worth the cash or not?
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3rd September 2008
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#28 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 210
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Come in and hear it in any time, sounds great in our place.
Scitscat
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15th September 2008
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#29 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Warszawa (Warsaw)
Posts: 950
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Just to let You know guys - I tested my friends Fat Track with my mics - Brauner Phantom AE, Shure KSM 44, SM7b and SM57. I compared it with my GR NV1– which of course is a bit tricky casue GR aint tube unit. Anyway –*I was never really excited about the TL Audio, but I must admit that this unit is a totally different story. I recorded some female vocalist and electric guitar thru it and in those two particulat examples I liked it better that my GR. Especially the combo –*Fat track with Brauner – on vocals it was super nice – with a lot mid presence. Its a winner for me –*not toobey at all - sounds like a really hi-end piece of gear with proper tube design.
Cheers
Marty
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15th September 2008
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#30 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2008 Location: United States
Posts: 5,345
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Sounds like a winner
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