IK Multimedia Arc

[semtek]

IK Multimedia - ARC

Looks interesting, like some kind of room neutralizing eq perhaps. More info on Sept 1.

[matt thomas]

uh oh, looks supsicioulsy like room eq to me

but then again I am leaping to conclusions

narco

[semtek]

Originally Posted by narco

uh oh, looks supsicioulsy like room eq to me

but then again I am leaping to conclusions

narco

are there any other companies doing this ITB?

is there a reason to avoid this kind of treatment?

[matt thomas]

Originally Posted by semtek

is there a reason to avoid this kind of treatment?

yes. although it can have a place, in general for a control room it is not the best way to approach things

check out this article for an explanation

RealTraps - Tune Your Room

example quote

Contrary to conventional wisdom, tuning a control room does not necessarily mean adding an equalizer to the monitor chain. Although control room monitor EQ was common years ago, these days most acousticians reject equalization as a way to achieve a flat low frequency response. The main reason EQ is not useful for correcting the low end in a room is because the response can change a lot depending on where you sit. I've measured changes as large as 15 dB across a physical span of only four inches at 100 Hz. So any EQ correction you apply is valid for a very small area only.

there is also an article somewhere that compares eq to bass trapping, and shows that bass trapping (in their situation, and probably in general) is superior

narco

[K-Slash]

I'm curious to see what it is exactly. A "revolution" ...

[audiomichael]

ARC = Automatic Room Correction?

[Stiff]

Wow... audiomichael, that is not a bad guess!

[Simone Coen]

ARC = Advanced Room Correction

[Dr.Wu]

maybe theres some sort of convolution technology involved..........

[arimaka]

Fixing actual room acoustics is ALWAYS a better solution than changing the sound of your monitors (using EQ or whatever new invention) to "fix" room acoustics...
This kind of technique should be used as a very last resort in my opinion.

As always YMMV....

[tomdarude]

why get´s everyone these days fooled into the hype that a computer & a DAW-software equal a STUDIO ???


NO new invention in the next 50 years will make acoustic roomtreatment & a pro monitoring set-up obsolete!! for the exact & simple to understand reasons ethan posted in the article. anyone with open ears can verify this in his room within minutes !!

...don´t EQ (or whatever IK are inventing) your DAW or monitors etc., just go and BUILT a friggen CONTROL ROOM ....for christ´s sake!!! fuuck

[dirtygringo]

Originally Posted by tomdarude

why get´s everyone these days fooled into the hype that a computer & a DAW-software equal a STUDIO ???


NO new invention in the next 50 years will make acoustic roomtreatment & a pro monitoring set-up obsolete!! for the exact & simple to understand reasons ethan posted in the article. anyone with open ears can verify this in his room within minutes !!

...don´t EQ (or whatever IK are inventing) your DAW or monitors etc., just go and BUILT a friggen CONTROL ROOM ....for christ´s sake!!! fuuck

To be honest this kind of product is probably aimed more at the bedroom producer
who can't afford to build control room's and that.
Thats if it even is a room eq or whatever...

Personally I wouldn't touch it with a 20" pole though

Edit: actually everything deserves a try and I do think IK make good stuff

[dubrichie]

Arseways Room Correction.

[T_R_S]

If you have a phase cancelation at a certain frequency no EQ will fix that ever.
Hype to sell a product to the novice user

[audiothings]

Whats all the negativity about ? Its just a bloody plugin... a tool you can choose to use, or not. Depending on whether your situation warrants it, or not. Depending on whether you're sensible, or not.

Even the hype in the ad doesn't suggest that its going to make room treatment redundant, every nitwit knows by now that room optimization is much better accomplished through acoustic treatment than corrective equalization.

I, for one, certainly welcome it, and I hope the manufacturer will not blow its usefulness out of proportion when the full campaign is out.

[elarreal]

ISN'T TODAY SEP. 1ST.?

I was very curious to know what this "arc" was about, mostly because it may not be a great solution for room acoustics for an untreated room, but maybe for the home studio that has allready advanced room treatment like "realtraps" ... I don't now , it could complement it in some way probably?

[NLP]

Hah, nothing happened
So back to good old basstraps and diffusors

[JesseJ]

Automagical Residence Conditioner

If it can remove unwanted reverb from a recording, that could be helpful, but if it is to 'tune' your speakers to your untreated room.. run like hell!

[jwnc]

Who says that is only for untreated rooms? It could be for anybody.. why dont we quit being so normally cynical and wait for it to come out before we make judgements.

JW

[truth123123]

Harmony Central®: IK Multimedia Unveils ARC, SampleMoog And StompIO

[slaves666]

Considering the fact that you actually need the room to be sufficient......and treating a control room can cost thousands of dollars, this software might actually bridge the gap. I agree that phasing and null points do pose HUGE problems, but overall bumps and dips can be acomodated.

[DaveC]

'Advanced Room Correction System'?....uh-oh...

The equalization solution then corrects for both time and frequency response problems more effectively and efficiently, than any other room correction EQ on the market.

There's no such thing as a correction EQ; it's the same as wiring a graphic
equalizer to your speakers, which loses all reference.
Whatever happened to room-treatment?

[Geert van den Berg]

Hmm, I don't see anything bad in this plugin. Sure it won't fix bad acoustics, but unless you have the space and the money to treat your room, this could give you a different perspective to your mixes, you can turn it off, right?

I see lots of people treat their room, but only partionally, then you also have a far from accurate listening enviroment...

I agree with Audiothings, it's just a tool...

I hope the 'acoustic guys' will try it out and then report back on GS.

[Dr.Wu]

this is the technology behind it

http://www.audyssey.com/multEQ.html

[Animus]

I wonder how much this thing will cost.

[jbuntz]

I don't see what everybody is dogging it for. So long as you keep both ears where the RTA mic was, you can deconvolve/eq the room.

[jayman]

I'm not seeing anything on the Harmony Central link. If this is just room eq correction, didn't dbx driverack studio already do that? Same with the JBL 4300 series? Doesn't seem like anything new.... But, I guess I don't know yet cause I can't find any info on it. I'm just saying this technology has been around for years now.... maybe not in the form of a plug-in. That's the only difference I see...???

j

[jayman]

Just found this:

"ARC features Audyssey MultEQ® technology, which measures sound information throughout your listening area, in various zones of the room, then combines this information to provide an accurate representation of the room's acoustical problems. The equalization solution then corrects for both time and frequency response problems more effectively and efficiently, than any other room correction EQ on the market."

So, that's different. All these others really only take into consideration the mix position. Sounds like this checks the whole room and maybe averages it, or something, plus also fixes "time" problems as well as frequency problems.... whatever "time" problems are. So, if this is correct, it is different than what's been available up until now.