OS X Mavericks
Old 11th June 2013
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OS X Mavericks

Well then, it seems as though Apple have finally ran out of big cats and made the switch to places, starting with Mavericks.

Any bets on when PT11 will be supported? Not that I would ever upgrade straight away, and I'd much rather wait until all (or most) bugs are sorted out.

Looking through Avid's history though, I'm going to say that Mavericks will be supported in December at the EARLIEST, but I also have some doubts as to whether it will be supported in 2013.

Anyway, comments and opinions welcome, and out of interest, what do people think of the first looks at Mavericks? Multi-monitor support is a big deal for me!
Old 11th June 2013
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Well then, it seems as though Apple have finally ran out of big cats and made the switch to places, starting with Maverick.

Any bets on when PT11 will be supported? Not that I would ever upgrade straight away, and I'd much rather wait until all (or most) bugs are sorted out.

Looking through Avid's history though, I'm going to say that Maverick will be supported in December at the EARLIEST, but I also have some doubts as to whether it will be supported in 2013.

Anyway, comments and opinions welcome, and out of interest, what do people think of the first looks at Maverick? Multi-monitor support is a big deal for me!
It looks killer. I generally stay one OS behind for my Pro Tools rig though. Now I am on 10.7 for that machine. Will go to the newest (oldest version there of) OS to run 11 when it comes out. Mavericks will not get a whiff of my machine until 2014 for sure. I may dabble on my business laptop first.
Old 11th June 2013
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I hope they have switched the name game to Top Gun characters.
Old 12th June 2013
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"Mavericks" to be more accurate.

It's gonna be misspelled everywhere, no doubt.
Old 12th June 2013
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"Mavericks" to be more accurate.

It's gonna be misspelled everywhere, no doubt.
Thanks for the heads up, i've changed it
Old 13th June 2013
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Actually, I think it's going to be supported pretty quick.

AVID have gotten much quicker this past year with updates especially with addressing OS changes.

But I think the fact that PT11 is essentially a ground up re-write means they'll be less likely to encounter things breaking from Apple's OS updates. Having the code rebuilt on a modern foundation should mean less issues with OS updates and MUCH quicker updates if something does need to be changed.

Well, that's what I think anyway.
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Old 13th June 2013
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PT11 is essentially a ground up re-write
That's a point, i didn't think of that, hopefully this will come into play with being a bit more speedy!
Old 13th June 2013
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Actually, I think it's going to be supported pretty quick.

AVID have gotten much quicker this past year with updates especially with addressing OS changes.

But I think the fact that PT11 is essentially a ground up re-write means they'll be less likely to encounter things breaking from Apple's OS updates. Having the code rebuilt on a modern foundation should mean less issues with OS updates and MUCH quicker updates if something does need to be changed.

Well, that's what I think anyway.
I agree with you on that and I think Avid may have an update ready by the time Mavericks hits the stores.

I'm still using Snow Leopard, as my system works fine, I fear plug-in incompatibility and none of the new features in the lions got my attention.

As for Mavericks, I find almost insulting the double screen thing, as that is how multiple screen should behave anyway. To me it seems more like a dumb bug fix, in fact I had to use Secondbar to have a menu bar on the other screen, which should have been there from the beginning.

Finder tabs are cool, but that feature was demanded long time ago and there are third party alternatives to Finder that implement them. The other Finder-related feature (the one that lets you assign tags to documents, I don't remember its name) is interesting.

The performance boost and economy tweaks may be a reason to upgrade for me, as long as its impact is truly significative as advertised.
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Old 13th June 2013
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I think the best part to Mavericks is the increased memory management.

This will be a god send for people that have a lot of apps running concurrently.
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Old 13th June 2013
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I hope they have switched the name game to Top Gun characters.
Actually it's named after a "big wave" surfing location in California .


So the list of possible names will probably be something like this
-Mavericks, California
Waimea Bay, Hawaii
Ghost Trees, California
Nelscott Reef, Lincoln City, Oregon, USA
Teahupoo, Tahiti
Peahi, aka, Jaws, Hawaii
Hout Bay, Cape Town, South Africa
Belharra, France
Madeira, Portugal
Nazaré, Portugal
The Wedge (surfing), California
Todos Santos, Baja, Mexico
Pichilemu, Chile
Cortes Bank, California, 100 miles off shore
Cribbar aka The Widowmaker, Newquay, Cornwall, England
Mullaghmore, Ireland
Aileens, Cliffs of Moher, Co. Clare, Ireland
Papatowai, The Catlins, New Zealand[30][31]
El Buey, Arica, Chile
Pico Alto, Punta Hermosa. Lima, Peru.
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Old 13th June 2013
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some of those would make terrible names for an OS
Ya whats even scarier is by the time we get down to lets say "Nazare' " Siri will be electromagnetically slapping you for even glancing at a Samsung Galaxy ( which will probably be a "Nebula")
Old 14th June 2013
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Actually it's named after a "big wave" surfing location in California .

So the list of possible names will probably be something like this
The way I understood it from the keynote was that going forward they are using "California" inspired names, not specifically surfing names. But I may have misinterpreted what they were saying.
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Old 14th June 2013
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The way I understood it from the keynote was that going forward they are using "California" inspired names, not specifically surfing names. But I may have misinterpreted what they were saying.
Ya that's probably correct I was just rollin' with it
Old 17th June 2013
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after Mavericks is "Venice" ... i called it here first haha
Old 19th June 2013
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Malibu or Santa Monica ;
Old 21st June 2013
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I can see Venice or Malibu
Old 25th June 2013
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Old 25th June 2013
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Actually it's named after a "big wave" surfing location in California .


So the list of possible names will probably be something like this
-Mavericks, California
Waimea Bay, Hawaii
Ghost Trees, California
Nelscott Reef, Lincoln City, Oregon, USA
Teahupoo, Tahiti
Peahi, aka, Jaws, Hawaii
Hout Bay, Cape Town, South Africa
Belharra, France
Madeira, Portugal
Nazaré, Portugal
The Wedge (surfing), California
Todos Santos, Baja, Mexico
Pichilemu, Chile
Cortes Bank, California, 100 miles off shore
Cribbar aka The Widowmaker, Newquay, Cornwall, England
Mullaghmore, Ireland
Aileens, Cliffs of Moher, Co. Clare, Ireland
Papatowai, The Catlins, New Zealand[30][31]
El Buey, Arica, Chile
Pico Alto, Punta Hermosa. Lima, Peru.
"There's no way Bells is bigger than Waimea, bro!"

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Old 25th June 2013
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The biggest change in Mavericks would probably be under the hood in GPU usage and support of OpenGL 4. I really don't expect mayor changes in the audio API's as that part was overhauled with the release of Lion.
Old 25th June 2013
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"There's no way Bells is bigger than Waimea, bro!"

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Old 28th June 2013
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"There's no way Bells is bigger than Waimea, bro!"

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It will be next year.
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Old 28th June 2013
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It will be next year.


Thank you!

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maybe patrick swayze will chime in from the great beyond ... if anyone knows Bells it's him ...
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Old 28th June 2013
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City of Industry, Inglewood, maybe even Van Nuys?
Old 29th June 2013
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Old 3rd August 2013
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Any bets on when PT11 will be supported? Not that I would ever upgrade straight away, and I'd much rather wait until all (or most) bugs are sorted out.

Looking through Avid's history though, I'm going to say that Mavericks will be supported in December at the EARLIEST, but I also have some doubts as to whether it will be supported in 2013.
Pro Tools work with Mavericks DP1 & 2 (haven't tested DP3, yet), though there are some display issues for some plugins, and the new prefpane drivers don't display properly. Doesn't seem like they'll need to do much to support it, so the update may come sooner than you think (albeit after Mavericks is officially released for sale to public).

That being said, I've found the new "feature" that stops processing background apps to hinder my workflow (because I don't mess around on Facebook while I'm tracking or mixing; if I have a background app, I'm probably running something related to my DAW). RTAS plugins seem to use more CPU power than in previous versions of OS X (10.6 is still best for RTAS, imho). The other features of the new OS are nice here and there, but for professional audio work, I think it'd be best to avoid Mavericks unless they offer a way to disable the new thread management.
Old 9th August 2013
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yep! i knew it and thanks so much for writing something about that. I have mentioned this in a dew topics and not a single soul replied to me about it. All i did was speculation as i haven't used it, and i was trying to encourage discussion and perhaps experience from beta testers.. but what i was getting it was just a logical guess that with all the power saving that apple are pimping about mavericks, i wondered if it would actually make osx (especially low latency) audio performance worse.
Old 10th August 2013
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I've been through every developer preview so far of mavericks...

pro tools hangs upon loading the audio engine.
Old 10th August 2013
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I've been through every developer preview so far of mavericks...

pro tools hangs upon loading the audio engine.
Shoot... They would of course finally sort out multiple monitors in this release as well wouldn't they... Seriously, why the heck didn't i just spend £1500 on an Asus laptop or just build my own desktop or something??
Old 10th August 2013
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Compton.
Gawd I spat my drink!!! Hilarious, that is!!!!
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