8th November 2011
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#1 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 290
Thread Starter | PT10 with MOTU 24 I/O & PCIe card
so this should work just fine i would imagine....anybody?
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8th November 2011
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#2 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Newcastle Upon-Tyne
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I use a MOTU pci-424 with 3 2048 interfaces.. and it works fine in 9. Dont see why that would change with 10 but I will be upgrading very soon. More annoyingly, I have discovered even though it says its limited to 32 i/o, it is in avid's hands which inputs can be used. (it seems to only allow the first 32) That means all my outboard gear is out of use at the moment, what a ballache. If anyone can confirm this that would be grand.
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8th November 2011
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#3 | | 70% Coffee, 30% Beer
Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Quincy, MA
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Originally Posted by wannaberocker so this should work just fine i would imagine....anybody? | With my Apple 8-core, My Studio partner runs Motu stuff [X2 2408's, with a Motu PCIe Card connecting them] and he uses DP mostly. I just installed PT10 Native for use with my Apogee Symphony I/O [8x8 w/ AES/EBU] which is operating in USB mode currently, [cause this works fine for me at the moment]. But I also have a Rosetta 200 with a XFW card, and have a Dual Core Macbook, that resides with an Apogee One, and that works with PT10 as well.
All my interfaces work directly with PT10 with Core Audio and working better than they did in version 9, I feel. I have been testing the system in the last couple days, and I feel that the overall stability, feature set, and performance of the program has been improved substantially. I have yet to try the MOTU's out with PT10, but I can and report back.
PT10 is limited to 32 I/O and will see the first 32 channels of your interfacing system. For more I/O, with a Mac Pro, or PEECEE you need to get the HDNative PCi-e card, with HD Interfaces. Then, you can roll with both PTHD Native systems using 3rd party Core Audio Devices up to 32 I/O, or the Avid Core Audio Driver of the PCI-e card, for up to 64 I/O with HD Interfaces.
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8th November 2011
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#4 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Newcastle Upon-Tyne
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Originally Posted by Roc Mixwell PT10 is limited to 32 I/O and will see the first 32 channels of your interfacing system. | why show all 96 in the I/O window if you can't select which 32 to use? That's just cruel. and misleading. but thanks for the info. Been scouring the internet all afternoon and it seems like indeed its below 32 or you're fooked. It's looking like I'll have to re-assign the third adat input on the first motu, to the second, then crawl behind the desk and shitload of cables and plug everything into the first motu instead of the second. my life. If I set up 32 inputs, am I then limited to zero outputs, or another 32 outputs?? I guess there's only one way to find out...
first world problems eh!
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31st December 2011
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#5 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Petershagen, Germany
Posts: 34
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Hi,
i'm on the way to change to pcie-424 and motu 24io.
Have a mac pro (lion) with pt10 and my maudio 2626 have more and more problems. i worked before with a 003 via firewire and all was fine.
would you say its relative save to go with motu and pcie?
My alternative is 2x Echo Audiofire12 but than i'm back on firewire i don't trust that really after my last experience.
More feedback on pt9 or pt10 would be very helpful. Thanks
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1st January 2012
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#6 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Newcastle Upon-Tyne
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Originally Posted by nstu Hi,
i'm on the way to change to pcie-424 and motu 24io.
Have a mac pro (lion) with pt10 and my maudio 2626 have more and more problems. i worked before with a 003 via firewire and all was fine.
would you say its relative save to go with motu and pcie?
My alternative is 2x Echo Audiofire12 but than i'm back on firewire i don't trust that really after my last experience.
More feedback on pt9 or pt10 would be very helpful. Thanks | this setup has been very stable for me on PT9 and Mac OS Snow Leaopard at my studio. Occasionaly pt wil crash upon opening but the second time it is fine. Infact its been great even with tracking and light mixing at 64 buffer. Death to firewire. Far too tempermental
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1st January 2012
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#7 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Petershagen, Germany
Posts: 34
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Originally Posted by weezul this setup has been very stable for me on PT9 and Mac OS Snow Leaopard at my studio. Occasionaly pt wil crash upon opening but the second time it is fine. Infact its been great even with tracking and light mixing at 64 buffer. Death to firewire. Far too tempermental |
Thanks weezul,
do you know if there are different versions of the 24io like the mk-versions of the 2408?
I could buy them used from two persons and one 24io seems much older but it's still the i/o version. They were released in 2003 i think but have anything changed in the past 8/9 years?
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10th January 2012
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#8 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jan 2012
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So Ill be purchasing a MOTU 24 IO to use in a windows 7 64bit system running pro tools 10 and was wondering if this will work. has anyone tried this yet so I can confirm it will work?
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11th January 2012
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#9 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 290
Thread Starter |
i was gonna get pt 10 but i want to wait for the first ( or second) 64bit version of pt
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11th January 2012
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#10 | | Moderator
Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney via London
Posts: 18,852
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Originally Posted by wannaberocker i was gonna get pt 10 but i want to wait for the first ( or second) 64bit version of pt | You'll be waiting till pt11 then. At least a year I should think, probably more like 18 months. Tp10 supports rats, which can't be made 64bit, so pt can't go 64bit beforempt11.
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18th February 2012
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#11 | | Gear interested
Joined: Nov 2011 Location: Toronto Canada
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Originally Posted by JCark01 So Ill be purchasing a MOTU 24 IO to use in a windows 7 64bit system running pro tools 10 and was wondering if this will work. has anyone tried this yet so I can confirm it will work? | That's what I'm doing and it works, although: 1. I had to disable the onboard sound card and 2. I'm running the 424 PCI-X card, although about to upgrade to the 424 PCIe.
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17th March 2012
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#12 | | Gear interested
Joined: Dec 2009
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Originally Posted by nstu
do you know if there are different versions of the 24io like the mk-versions of the 2408?
I could buy them used from two persons and one 24io seems much older but it's still the i/o version. They were released in 2003 i think but have anything changed in the past 8/9 years? | No there is only one version of the Motu 24 i/0, but there are different PCI cards, one of which you would need. It depends on your PCI slots.
Incidentally, I am looking for a 3rd 24io, so if you don't want the 2 you mentioned in your post, could you turn me on to the source? Thanks.
PS. i have not used my Motu Interfaces with PT, because I am still on PT8; but thinking of upgrading. I use DP as much as possible.
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17th March 2012
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#13 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jun 2011 Location: Petershagen, Germany
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Originally Posted by tommym No there is only one version of the Motu 24 i/0, but there are different PCI cards, one of which you would need. It depends on your PCI slots.
Incidentally, I am looking for a 3rd 24io, so if you don't want the 2 you mentioned in your post, could you turn me on to the source? Thanks.
PS. i have not used my Motu Interfaces with PT, because I am still on PT8; but thinking of upgrading. I use DP as much as possible. | sorry that is some months back. in that time i had a contact to an ebay user and one person from austria (that one i bought). in ebay germany there comes from time to time a 24io. maybe you look there and ask for shipping?
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29th March 2012
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#14 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2010
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i think at this point if i had to do it over again i would look for an interface that i could monitor playback from to try and avoid monitor latency for pro tools 10 ..Not sure exactly about this
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10th July 2012
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#15 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Maybe someone can give me some advice:
I'm currently running PT 10 with an Apogee Ensemble and Dangerous Dbox for 8 I/O and 8 channels of summing. I would really like to get up to 16 channels of IO or more and add a Dangerous 2 Bus (or LT) to get my summing tracks and be able to use more outboard.
Would the MOTU be a big step down from the APogee? Like the 24 i/o? I have been kicking the idea of adding the new Apollo (since I need another UAD card because I'm maxxing out my quad), and that's another 8 i/o.
I don't know what to do. It's not a cheap jump to go anywhere from here...
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4th August 2012
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#16 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jul 2006
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Would the MOTU be a big step down from the APogee?
I'm on the same boat here.
Have the Ensemble but I hate it. Crashes, clicks, pops... and it doesn't sound that good anyway.
I use a console so I need 16 or 24 AD / DA channels on the same converter. Don't want to mix and match and I really don't want to mess with clocks anymore.
The Motu 24 I/O looks good but maybe a little old for today's standards?
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5th August 2012
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#17 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO
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I got an Aurora 16 since my last post... *facepalm*
Sounds awesome.
JROD
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25th September 2012
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#18 | | Gear interested
Joined: Nov 2009
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Originally Posted by planeador Would the MOTU be a big step down from the APogee?
I'm on the same boat here.
Have the Ensemble but I hate it. Crashes, clicks, pops... and it doesn't sound that good anyway.
I use a console so I need 16 or 24 AD / DA channels on the same converter. Don't want to mix and match and I really don't want to mess with clocks anymore.
The Motu 24 I/O looks good but maybe a little old for today's standards? | I've had a 24 i/o since 2004. It is amazing. very stable, and at 96 khz, will give you very good results.
compared to an apogee ensemble (which a friend of mine owns) I would say that unless you are Tony Maserati, there is not a huge sonic difference to be noticed.
above everything, it depends on what preamps you are using at the front end. anything decent like api, neve or 500 series clones and you're there.
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