Pro Tools 11

[Ragan]

Sooooo...when's Pro Tools 11 comin' out? Should be any week now, yeah?

I'm guessing...33 bit float, more post-production stuff and...bounce to Spotify? And let's call it, mmm, $1500 for Pro Tools 10 users?

Can't wait!

[Ragan]

Oh, and almost forgot, PT11 will be the last version to offer full support for HD-X hardware. Switching to HD-Extra-X stuff. It sounds killer, yo!

[D.Don]

Maybe computers with alco-lock is the next thing?

:D

[JonasW]

Originally Posted by D.Don

Maybe computers with alco-lock is the next thing?

:D

That's a brilliant idea
Anything that can avoid these kind of threads is good...

[Ragan]

Well my brilliantly nuanced and insightful humor was obviously lost on you two.

[Mite]

ProTools 11.1 won't support PT11

[Ragan]

Originally Posted by Mite

ProTools 11.1 won't support PT11

That's more like it. Love it!

[stevens119]

It took a year. I know that seems like a short amount of time. Alot can happen in a year. After all, they could have made us wait another year on these new features as well. I think it was a good move. I wouldn't have wanted to wait another year for PT10 if I didn't have to. I'm guessing PT11 will be out in 2013, but you never know. I welcome the upgrades, and have since 5.0.1

I get your joke...but I have read enough criticism about how pro tools 10 came out, and what is included in the package. It's worth it. Unfortunately, I always upgrade because I am just dying to say goodbye to the bugs that exist in the version I am using. But, that's part of it...Welcome to recording on computer software

[Ragan]

Originally Posted by stevens119

I get your joke...but I have read enough criticism about how pro tools 10 came out, and what is included in the package. It's worth it. Unfortunately, I always upgrade because I am just dying to say goodbye to the bugs that exist in the version I am using. But, that's part of it...Welcome to recording on computer software

I never had any bugs with 8 or 9.

I want the new features too, but 10 months after you make a big stink about 9? And after a bunch of us shelled out for it?

I think part of it is an implied trajectory. It literally leaves me thinkin' "So Pro Tools is gonna cost me $400 a year? And it's gonna go up each year?" I know that's probably not entirely gonna be the case.

In fact, this time it wasn't even a year!

[Tha_SkyWalker]

I was also a little surprised how quickly Pro Tools 10 came out. Like Ragan said it hasn't even been year yet.

[stevens119]

Originally Posted by Tha_SkyWalker

I was also a little surprised how quickly Pro Tools 10 came out. Like Ragan said it hasn't even been year yet.

Perhaps I was one of the few excited about disk cache, real time fades, and clip gain. You guys weren't excited about a new version? I am...every time. I know some engineers who won't move until its stable...but pt10...is pretty darn stable.

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[zak7]

Guys u are laughing but is just scary to believe now that for HDX users the upgrade will be $1000 or more!

Avid raised the bar of the Upgrade prices, expect to be at least $800 to $1000 from now.

[Ragan]

Originally Posted by stevens119

Perhaps I was one of the few excited about disk cache, real time fades, and clip gain. You guys weren't excited about a new version? I am...every time. I know some engineers who won't move until its stable...but pt10...is pretty darn stable.

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Totally excited about the new features. I love Pro Tools. I just think the way they're handling they're most loyal customers kinda sucks balls.

And of course its not the end of the world, its just a bit of a ripoff.



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[stevens119]

I sort of agree with you on that. One 001, an mbox, and an mbox2 later I agree...the 002 is still working...for now. The software and upgrades are excellent and substantial. I knew when that 001 wasn't supported anymore that upgrading was going to be vital to having a home pro tools set up. That was Digidesign stuff. It's not any different with Avid. I'm sure that they are running that company as good as they possibly can. They are not trying to piss people off. If people wish to stay current, they can upgrade. It isn't required. As I've read in other posts, your stuff isn't just going to stop working afterall. All this stuff that's going on is necessary for the advancement of the platform. In that case, we should welcome the advancement. Complaining about Digi/Avid is so 2007. As if the new stuff going on surprises anybody...except for the quick update

[beergineer]

I'm just amazed that some kid in a basement cracked it already.

[ajbianco]

pro tools 11 will be locked back the hardware again since avid have realised that pro tools 9 and 10 has been and will be hacked in a matter of weeks and 70% of the users just get pirated versions which is what has currently happened with pro tools 9.

same goes with the plugins. they released the new plugin format cause everything is cracked and no one is buying plugins.

has nothing to do with sound quality and features.... Yo!

[Smoothbassman]

Originally Posted by ajbianco

pro tools 11 will be locked back the hardware again since avid have realised that pro tools 9 and 10 has been and will be hacked in a matter of weeks and 70% of the users just get pirated versions which is what has currently happened with pro tools 9.

same goes with the plugins. they released the new plugin format cause everything is cracked and no one is buying plugins.

has nothing to do with sound quality and features.... Yo!

Avid is not going back to locking the software to the hardware. Did you see how many copies of PT9 they sold when it came out. Way more than they expected, Because now you can use any interface just like every other DAW out there.

PT9 was a huge success for AVID. The revenue is in the software not the hardware. They finally realized that after decades. They had to do something to maintain their competitive advantage. All the other. DAWs have had PT10 features in them for years and I'm glad that AVID is listening to their customers and building a product that is compelling enough to drive people to upgrade and switch DAWs all together.

[remo]

I hear Pro Tools 11 charges your credit card USD$25 each time it is launched and USD$10 each time you bounce to MP3.

[saciestudio]

Originally Posted by ajbianco

pro tools 11 will be locked back the hardware again since avid have realised that pro tools 9 and 10 has been and will be hacked in a matter of weeks and 70% of the users just get pirated versions which is what has currently happened with pro tools 9.

same goes with the plugins. they released the new plugin format cause everything is cracked and no one is buying plugins.

has nothing to do with sound quality and features.... Yo!

Actually some say 9 was made hardware independent because 8 was already hacked to work standalone....

[ajbianco]

Originally Posted by Smoothbassman

Avid is not going back to locking the software to the hardware. Did you see how many copies of PT9 they sold when it came out. Way more than they expected, Because now you can use any interface just like every other DAW out there.

PT9 was a huge success for AVID. The revenue is in the software not the hardware. They finally realized that after decades. They had to do something to maintain their competitive advantage. All the other. DAWs have had PT10 features in them for years and I'm glad that AVID is listening to their customers and building a product that is compelling enough to drive people to upgrade and switch DAWs all together.

as soon as the software gets cracked, sales come to a grinding holt.

[RScott]

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[Haiku]

Originally Posted by stevens119

I wouldn't have wanted to wait another year for PT10 if I didn't have to.

But why not call it Pro Tools 9.2 with a very modest upgrade cost. Would have saved everyone (not least themselves) a HUGE amount of grief.

[Shaman]

anyone else noticed Anne Mincielly mentioning
PT 11 in the last PensadosPlace episode.

Seems allready to be in beta...

[PopularDemand]

Originally Posted by Shaman

anyone else noticed Anne Mincielly mentioning
PT 11 in the last PensadosPlace episode.

Seems allready to be in beta...

There has been talk of it coming march/april but I ignored it until I saw waves was coming 64bit in march/april. 11 would have to be a totally free update for anyone who upgraded or purchased 10 if it comes that soon.

[Lenzo]

Originally Posted by Ragan

Well my brilliantly nuanced and insightful humor was obviously lost on you two.

Yeah, it was lost on me too. I don't see what's insightful about re-hashing a subject that was bitched about for months. This is more like someone throwing trash out in front of my house.
L.

[jmarkham]

Well .. if PT10 is any indication, the upgrade price for 11 will be
logarithmic .. 1k for PT 10 ... 10k for PT 11.

jeff

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Originally Posted by Smoothbassman

Avid is not going back to locking the software to the hardware. Did you see how many copies of PT9 they sold when it came out. Way more than they expected, Because now you can use any interface just like every other DAW out there.

PT9 was a huge success for AVID. The revenue is in the software not the hardware. They finally realized that after decades. They had to do something to maintain their competitive advantage. All the other. DAWs have had PT10 features in them for years and I'm glad that AVID is listening to their customers and building a product that is compelling enough to drive people to upgrade and switch DAWs all together.

Not true, in fact the opposite is true. The money is in the hardware as the pirated software aspect really hurts these guys. I have come across so many hacked versions of the Waves Mercury bundle it is ridiculous. That is 7K (I believe it is, I know it is around there somewhere) product that people are stealing. I would be willing to bet that at least 10% of all Mercury bundles in use out there in production are cracked, and it is probably a lot higher than that!!!

[muziekschuur]

They needed money badly so they could finance the first batch of PT HD10(X) cards. I mean they first have to cough up an considderable amount to pay the first batch... Now the first batch is sold and PT 9 & 10 paid for it now what they make of HDX is getting them black numbers....

[muziekschuur]

No cynical stuff from my side. They gotta eat right?

[Shaman]

My personal guess is avid wants to release 64 bit and AAX updates
ASAP since many PT hd users will wait with upgrades until they have full
info on waves upgrade prices / availability.

I for my part won´t invest into a new system until that´s clear.