Why is there no post-production film/TV forum? - Page 4

starcrash13 · 28th December 2006, 09:15 PM

Funny, I never really gave a crap about cars until I became an FX editor. I had to start learning these things. It's funny how we start paying attention to detail and have to learn specifics about cars, birds, guns, and all sorts of things. Before I started cutting FX, I couldn't tell you what a musket or a Glock 18 sounds like. Now I have to.

jikkyboy11 · 28th December 2006, 11:24 PM

Another vote from me. I'm still in school and would like to dabble in the post production world.

georgia · 29th December 2006, 03:14 PM

Let's get this post production slutz forum going! I'm willing to help as a co-moderator if it will help.

cheers
geo

Georgia Hilton mpse cas
world wide audio inc
41 white st NY NY 10013
www.globalaudio.net

georgia · 29th December 2006, 03:25 PM

Consoles and configurations for mixing
5.1, 6.1, 7.1, mixing systems and techniques
Downmixing systems and techniques
DOLBY-AC3 and DTS encoding / Decoding for FIlm
DOLBY-E / DOLBY-AC3 encoding/decoding for Broadcast
Broadcast Delivery specs and issues
Film Delivery specs and issues
Sound Design / Dialogue Editing Tools
Projector Systems
SYNC systems for SD and HD ( including tri-sync )
Production Recording systems / Methodologies for Film and Broadcast
DAW systems / methods for Post
DVD authoring Software and Delivery Mediums
Dialognorm / LEQa / LEQm / Metering and other Level Monitoring tools

theres a few to add to DR Sound's list.

cheers
geo

Georgia Hilton MPSE CAS
world wide audio inc
41 white st NY NY 10013
www.globalaudio.net

Astrain · 29th December 2006, 05:39 PM

Another vote here,

Bassace · 29th December 2006, 05:48 PM

This is a great one ... i do location work for image films and ENG as well ( i have a studio too) you have to wear all the hats tho ...lighting..camera assi.....sound and carrying lots of things - 10 hour day plus on your feet......pays good tho ...thats in europe :) i also do the music for the films afterwards as well and am currently getting into the FCP bundle to edit and authorise....... more strings to the bow

starcrash13 · 29th December 2006, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Let's get this post production slutz forum going! I'm willing to help as a co-moderator if it will help.

Hey Geo,
That would be great! I'm always willing to chime in as well.

starcrash13 · 29th December 2006, 07:32 PM

Quote:

This is a great one ... i do location work for image films and ENG as well ( i have a studio too) you have to wear all the hats tho ...lighting..camera assi.....sound and carrying lots of things - 10 hour day plus on your feet......pays good tho ...thats in europe :) i also do the music for the films afterwards as well and am currently getting into the FCP bundle to edit and authorise....... more strings to the bow

I suppose production sound wouldn't be too far off-topic. More communication between production and post is always a good thing. This is especially true since our workflows are evolving along with newer media and technology i.e. 24p, HD, BWF files, etc.

As you probably know, there's also the Remote Possibilities forum here as well as the Google Groups R.A.M.P.S for non-post related specific production sound discussion.

Henchman · 30th December 2006, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoundBadge

Because there is no money,especially in Rock n Roll..
My rock AE buddies are hitting me up all the time for production work..
5am call time anyone?
thats were they usaully lose interest.wimps

That's why I'm gald I'm a dialogue mixer in Audio-Post.
No 5am calls here.

minister · 30th December 2006, 01:57 AM

as great as Jay's and Geo's list are, i am inclined to believe that we will be dealing with more 'budget' conscious post here. meaning DV : FCP or Premier or Video Toast (HA!) --> Pro Tools or Nuendo or Logic to DVD or Digibeta as opposed to Double-system Deva's and Cantars with 35MM or HD (double-system) ---> team of 15 or more people and a Harrison Console with 3 mixers and Dolby PM then SDDS then DTS...to international distribution.

all should be welcome, i am just saying that chances are that the traffic here would not be the block-buster sound crew. ...most post is high-end corporate, commercial, or independent film... the high-end pro film guys have people like 'doc' and 'coach' and 'funkcity' and 'sneezy' and 'sleepy'.

oh, and Concert DVD mixing and encoding. Surround mixing.

pkautzsch · 30th December 2006, 12:50 PM

Yeah, a Surround forum would be great! Not only as to film, but also about music, like, say, surround miking techniques and so on.

Jazzpunk · 30th December 2006, 07:49 PM

Great idea! Most post mixers I've worked with are musicians as well...we are very very slutty

If anything at least there'd be a place online to come and bitch about how nobody ever budgets for sound in television, or how many first time filmmakers think the camera mic will be fine for production sound, or how an actress who looks great on screen suddenly becomes one big bag of ugly when trying to get her to loop her lines in the VO booth or...

**jayfrigo** · 30th December 2006, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minister

oh, and Concert DVD mixing and encoding. Surround mixing.

That's a subject I'd definitely contribute to. It's a major part of our business. We're one of not many companies who offer wraparound services, from hi-def video & audio truck to SSL G+ mix studio to mastering to video editing and DVD authoring. Some recent jobs include Alice in Chains, Seether, Killswitch Engage, The Pixies, O.A.R, Interpol, New Order, Oasis, and Gnarls Barkley.

We could discuss the whole production chain, not just the post. Much of the info would be appropriate to Steve Remote's forum, but we could touch on how the remote affects our later post. Still, I think the post forum would deal mostly with non-music oriented post, as between Steve's forum and the regular music-oriented ones, concert video threads already have a home.

Berolzheimer · 31st December 2006, 04:37 AM

I'll be happy to contribute what little I can as well.

georgia · 3rd January 2007, 03:49 PM

Jules? anyone? can we actually make this happen this month?

cheers
geo

Chuck B · 3rd January 2007, 04:50 PM

you got my vote too.

starcrash13 · 3rd January 2007, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgia

Jules? anyone? can we actually make this happen this month?

cheers
geo

Would be a great way to start the new year!

Gibby · 5th January 2007, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgia

Consoles and configurations for mixing
5.1, 6.1, 7.1, mixing systems and techniques
Downmixing systems and techniques
DOLBY-AC3 and DTS encoding / Decoding for FIlm
DOLBY-E / DOLBY-AC3 encoding/decoding for Broadcast
Broadcast Delivery specs and issues
Film Delivery specs and issues
Sound Design / Dialogue Editing Tools
Projector Systems
SYNC systems for SD and HD ( including tri-sync )
Production Recording systems / Methodologies for Film and Broadcast
DAW systems / methods for Post
DVD authoring Software and Delivery Mediums
Dialognorm / LEQa / LEQm / Metering and other Level Monitoring tools

theres a few to add to DR Sound's list.

cheers
geo

Georgia Hilton MPSE CAS
world wide audio inc
41 white st NY NY 10013
www.globalaudio.net

Mattrix · 10th January 2007, 12:02 AM

pleeeaaase!

Mattrix · 10th January 2007, 12:03 AM

pleeeaaase!

JesseJ · 10th January 2007, 12:04 AM

yeah. this should happen me thinks...

qubi · 10th January 2007, 12:38 AM

YES YES YES

I like to think of myself as a producer, but what pays (most of) the bills is my TV/commercial work.. Am i a G slut?? NO doubt, I have my own project studio and love gear, and i think a lot of people on this forum are in the same situation.. regardless if Post people are as slutty as the rest of "us", i think the benefit would be great for a lot of us, especially people like me that are involved in all aspects of sound production, where "post" is another step in the process to deliver the final product..

Hope it happens.

and a happy belated New Years to all

cajonezzz · 13th January 2007, 03:28 AM

What's up???? I'm all ready with my note pad!

Post forum!!!

plz.

PlugHead · 13th January 2007, 04:19 AM

bump!

As I'm knee-deep in composition/cue-writing/mixdown stages on an indie video these past few weeks, I'd way rather drop in to see a new "post-prod/film/TV forum" than:

a) "what killer mic for under $50 dollars"

b) "Dre stole Timba's beatz y'all"

c) "do you think my ass is fat?"

Just a thought!

gsilbers · 13th January 2007, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlugHead

bump!

As I'm knee-deep in composition/cue-writing/mixdown stages on an indie video these past few weeks, I'd way rather drop in to see a new "post-prod/film/TV forum" than:

a) "what killer mic for under $50 dollars"

b) "Dre stole Timba's beatz y'all"

c) "do you think my ass is fat?"

Just a thought!

jhahhhaaaaaahahaha

**Jules** · 14th January 2007, 12:28 AM

Remind me after NAMM, its on a back burner untill then,,,

Orange_METaL · 17th January 2007, 05:55 PM

I would love a post forum...

right now looking for information on DOLBY-E / DOLBY-AC3 encoding/decoding for Broadcast/DVD-V and DVD-A

Where do I find that???

Skrazz · 17th January 2007, 06:43 PM

Throw my vote in the mix! My heart is in music, but my time is spent in radio/dialogue editing.

Vocalvoodoo · 17th January 2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMoo

Yep! Don't forget Radio!

I second that.

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28th December 2006, 09:15 PM	#91
starcrash13 Gear addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Marin County, CA, USA Posts: 436	Funny, I never really gave a crap about cars until I became an FX editor. I had to start learning these things. It's funny how we start paying attention to detail and have to learn specifics about cars, birds, guns, and all sorts of things. Before I started cutting FX, I couldn't tell you what a musket or a Glock 18 sounds like. Now I have to. __________________ Pascal Garneau \| IMDb www.pascalgarneau.com

29th December 2006, 03:14 PM	#93
georgia Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY NY Posts: 524	I second the motion Let's get this post production slutz forum going! I'm willing to help as a co-moderator if it will help. cheers geo Georgia Hilton mpse cas world wide audio inc 41 white st NY NY 10013 www.globalaudio.net

29th December 2006, 03:25 PM	#94
georgia Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY NY Posts: 524	more sub topics Consoles and configurations for mixing 5.1, 6.1, 7.1, mixing systems and techniques Downmixing systems and techniques DOLBY-AC3 and DTS encoding / Decoding for FIlm DOLBY-E / DOLBY-AC3 encoding/decoding for Broadcast Broadcast Delivery specs and issues Film Delivery specs and issues Sound Design / Dialogue Editing Tools Projector Systems SYNC systems for SD and HD ( including tri-sync ) Production Recording systems / Methodologies for Film and Broadcast DAW systems / methods for Post DVD authoring Software and Delivery Mediums Dialognorm / LEQa / LEQm / Metering and other Level Monitoring tools theres a few to add to DR Sound's list. cheers geo Georgia Hilton MPSE CAS world wide audio inc 41 white st NY NY 10013 www.globalaudio.net

30th December 2006, 01:57 AM	#100
minister Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: minneapolis, mn Posts: 1,114	as great as Jay's and Geo's list are, i am inclined to believe that we will be dealing with more 'budget' conscious post here. meaning DV : FCP or Premier or Video Toast (HA!) --> Pro Tools or Nuendo or Logic to DVD or Digibeta as opposed to Double-system Deva's and Cantars with 35MM or HD (double-system) ---> team of 15 or more people and a Harrison Console with 3 mixers and Dolby PM then SDDS then DTS...to international distribution. all should be welcome, i am just saying that chances are that the traffic here would not be the block-buster sound crew. ...most post is high-end corporate, commercial, or independent film... the high-end pro film guys have people like 'doc' and 'coach' and 'funkcity' and 'sneezy' and 'sleepy'. oh, and Concert DVD mixing and encoding. Surround mixing. __________________ tom hambleton C.A.S. *I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW GOOD THAT MIX LOOKS!* ministry of fancy noises

28th December 2006, 11:24 PM	#92
jikkyboy11 Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 44 is my HooD Posts: 534	Another vote from me. I'm still in school and would like to dabble in the post production world.

29th December 2006, 05:39 PM	#95
Astrain Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 106	Another vote here,

29th December 2006, 05:48 PM	#96
Bassace Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 181	This is a great one ... i do location work for image films and ENG as well ( i have a studio too) you have to wear all the hats tho ...lighting..camera assi.....sound and carrying lots of things - 10 hour day plus on your feet......pays good tho ...thats in europe :) i also do the music for the films afterwards as well and am currently getting into the FCP bundle to edit and authorise....... more strings to the bow

30th December 2006, 12:50 PM	#101
pkautzsch Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 992	Yeah, a Surround forum would be great! Not only as to film, but also about music, like, say, surround miking techniques and so on. __________________ Microphones always make me sound louder and better! -- Guitar Girl

30th December 2006, 07:49 PM	#102
Jazzpunk Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,638	Great idea! Most post mixers I've worked with are musicians as well...we are very very slutty If anything at least there'd be a place online to come and bitch about how nobody ever budgets for sound in television, or how many first time filmmakers think the camera mic will be fine for production sound, or how an actress who looks great on screen suddenly becomes one big bag of ugly when trying to get her to loop her lines in the VO booth or...

31st December 2006, 04:37 AM	#104
Berolzheimer Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: El Lay Posts: 1,979	I'll be happy to contribute what little I can as well. __________________ Purveyor of fine sounds since 1961. My very incomplete IMDB list: My very incomplete IMDB list I'm all ears.

3rd January 2007, 03:49 PM	#105
georgia Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY NY Posts: 524	Soo... who do I talk to to actually get this going? Jules? anyone? can we actually make this happen this month? cheers geo

3rd January 2007, 04:50 PM	#106
Chuck B Gear nut Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 143	you got my vote too.

10th January 2007, 12:02 AM	#109
Mattrix Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 11	coool pleeeaaase! Last edited by Mattrix; 10th January 2007 at 12:06 AM.. Reason: doubled

10th January 2007, 12:03 AM	#110
Mattrix Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 11	coool pleeeaaase!

10th January 2007, 12:04 AM	#111
JesseJ Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland, Europe Posts: 334	yeah. this should happen me thinks... __________________ Yeah!

10th January 2007, 12:38 AM	#112
qubi Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 219	YES YES YES I like to think of myself as a producer, but what pays (most of) the bills is my TV/commercial work.. Am i a G slut?? NO doubt, I have my own project studio and love gear, and i think a lot of people on this forum are in the same situation.. regardless if Post people are as slutty as the rest of "us", i think the benefit would be great for a lot of us, especially people like me that are involved in all aspects of sound production, where "post" is another step in the process to deliver the final product.. Hope it happens. and a happy belated New Years to all __________________ Qubi SoundTrax productions, KWT qubi1@hotmail.com

13th January 2007, 03:28 AM	#113
cajonezzz Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Carlsbad Ca. Posts: 1,723	What's up???? I'm all ready with my note pad! Post forum!!! plz. __________________ Craig Zarkos http://www.myspace.com/cajonezzz http://tybridroom.com/ z-orama TourstopLIVE! Calavera Proving Grounds (record & ride!) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for they become habits. Watch your habits, for they become character. Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.

13th January 2007, 04:19 AM	#114
PlugHead Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: steeltown Posts: 1,739	bump! As I'm knee-deep in composition/cue-writing/mixdown stages on an indie video these past few weeks, I'd way rather drop in to see a new "post-prod/film/TV forum" than: a) "what killer mic for under $50 dollars" b) "Dre stole Timba's beatz y'all" c) "do you think my ass is fat?" Just a thought! __________________ Jay PlugHead Productions

14th January 2007, 12:28 AM	#116
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 11,814	Remind me after NAMM, its on a back burner untill then,,, __________________ Jules "...there are some amazing deals to be had in this right now. it brings battleship mixing closer to the jilted generation" - reptil

17th January 2007, 05:55 PM	#117
Orange_METaL Gear Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 34	Love that idea I would love a post forum... right now looking for information on DOLBY-E / DOLBY-AC3 encoding/decoding for Broadcast/DVD-V and DVD-A Where do I find that???

17th January 2007, 06:43 PM	#118
Skrazz Gear Head Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St. Petersburg Posts: 44	Throw my vote in the mix! My heart is in music, but my time is spent in radio/dialogue editing.