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Best sound effect search engine for PT?

Hi guys

I recently left the world of Steinberg :( and went into Avid. The first thing that hit me was of course the change in keyboard shortcuts and the lack of a scissors tool (!).

But then another problem came in. The previous guy had no system whatsoever in terms of looking for sound effects. He would open the folder on Finder and manually browse through all the effects.

I was wondering if there are programs etc that I can convince my new bosses to purchase to make this process less painful. Having something close to Nuendo's search engine would be awesome! I've looked at Soundminer so far, but was wondering if there are any others out there. I'm on PT9 HD btw.

Thanks all for your input!

Another question, what would be a good plugin to check for levels? I depended on the SLM128 when I was using Nuendo. What bout Tools?

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sound miner.

If you just need levels fabfilters L2 has a good meter and does k20 however protools 11 will have all new metering.
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I agree with Jeff. Some people I know dislike SoundMiner, but I think it is great. You can audition sounds against picture, do a lot of sound design within the app using plugins and the built in pitch shift function, combine stereo to mono and create custom palates. The pro version isn't cheap, but it is the only version I would settle for. When you have a really huge library things can get a bit bogged down, but it is up to you to tell the app exactly what it is you are looking for, in which case it will do what you tell it to.
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another great sound search engine program is basehead.
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Thanks guys for your replies! Will mention basehead and soundminer to the bosses.
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Soundminer Pro v4 - is one of the best investments I ever made.
Regarding Basehead it seems not supporting 5.0 or 5.1 files management and spotting into the PT. But I might be wrong.

For metering in PT you have Nugen VisLM as well as others like Waves WLM, Izotope insight e.t.c
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SM has just announced an AAX/VST/AU plugin version of SM that enables search and spotting of single channels from multi-channel files and endless plugin chaining options and search from within the plugin. Also Izotope 64bit SRC etc.:

http://smftp.s3.amazonaws.com/NAB13/...sletter_sm.pdf
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+1 for SM. Whenever I try something else, I'm usually disappointed.
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another vote for soundminer.
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Basehead is great.
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I'm a Nuendo guy, and I still prefer SoundMiner to the Steiny's very nice built-in function.
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I tried basehead and liked the look of it but its ability to port in metadata from apps like sound miner was a major issue.
Soundminer pro gives you ability to really manipulate on the way in

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I tried basehead and liked the look of it but its ability to port in metadata from apps like sound miner was a major issue.
Soundminer pro gives you ability to really manipulate on the way in

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Really?

I didn't have a problem importing the metadata at all into Basehead.
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I wonder if the new workspace in pt11 will finally usable so a thirdparty app will no longer be necessary.
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There is also Library Monkey if you dont like SM or BH.
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I use Workspace and it's fine. Was a shock when I moved from Nuendo, but now I got used to it completely. It's not as fast and not as flexible as MediaBay though. Also, you can't select portions of audio - like in Nuendo. It reads BWF metadata so it's definitely usable.
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Great and cheap
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+1 for Audio Finder. Does everything and its way cheaper than SM.
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Audio finder's spotting to PT can be hit or miss sometimes though. Maybe I need to upgrade.
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Never had a problem with spotting to PT here.
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+1 Audiofinder, spotting, batch process, all you can eat... cheap
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Quick question about Audio Finder. You know how you can play the files on the keyboard with varying pitches and speed, can you process that and bring it in to PT? Couldn't find out how to do that so I've been recording it in.
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Quick question about Audio Finder. You know how you can play the files on the keyboard with varying pitches and speed, can you process that and bring it in to PT? Couldn't find out how to do that so I've been recording it in.
sure, just play the keyboard (MIDI input device), proccess (gain or whatever) & spot the new file.
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Soundminer is great for mac but not the best for PC. I would say the opposite about Basehead. I currently use Basehead on a Mac and there are definitely some buggy things about it on the mac. Transfering files to PT has issues with stability and file naming. It also has trouble with some sound libraries. Boom and Hiss and Roar in particular have caused me issues with slow, shotty playback and not rendering waveforms.

Another option that I don't think has been mentioned is Netmix Pro. I prefer Soundminer to all of these (but use Basehead bc it was cheaper) but used Netmix extensively in the past and it's also a very good program. About as expensive as Soundminder but works great on the PC.
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efer Soundminer to all of these (but use Basehead bc it was cheaper) but used Netmix extensively in the past and it's also a very good program. About as expensive as Soundminder but works great on the PC.
Do you know how you can get Netmix Pro? I've emailed them several times for an individual evaluation copy but they never write back. I assumed that they were only interested in volume clients.
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hmmm, not sure - I'd just assume somewhere on the website? When I used it I worked for a company who did buy volume network licenses. Still seems like they should get back to you! Sorry!
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Not sure if I should be starting a new thread for this, but how do you guys use unnamed sound effects? I really don't wanna go through 1000s of unnamed sound effects, but there might be useful stuff in there!
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Not sure if I should be starting a new thread for this, but how do you guys use unnamed sound effects? I really don't wanna go through 1000s of unnamed sound effects, but there might be useful stuff in there!
If it's audio CD commercial sound library (hollywood edge, sound idea) that was rip years ago and was unnamed, you can use a program call Injector Pro to inject metadata to the wav files. Only works on commercial sound libraries though.

If it's a private library that somebody just didn't name them, then get an intern and have them listen to them all and tag them.

there's really no way around it, you just have to manually listen to each one and tag them.
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You're right, I do have hollywood edge and sound idea.

I have no intern! looks like its gonna be me.

sigh :(
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