FCPX OMF misery

[JoeMilner]

WTH????
Wow
Why so many tracks? Is it an FCP X thing. or did they just think it would be a "good idea" to have everything completely separate?

[Brent_in_Sydney]

Theres no omf or aaf support in fcpx. The dont have an audio timeline but rather roles assigned to clips and then you can use third party tools make and omf/aaf from that mess and it is never, ever painless. They cant simply arrange like with like as we would normally want. Stupid change in paradigm that makes collaboration so much more needlessly time consuming!

[danijel]

Amazing. Did the OMF at least import correctly? How did they make the OMF?

[NReichman]

They have a great video editor who understands the 3rd-party OMF conversion tools and dug in deep (editing XML) to be able to make the OMFs. To their credit, they have reasons to stick with FCPX, but the director certainly spent a lot of time in the video room doing audio prep for me. Crazy.

As far as I understand, all the multitrack audio for each clip travels with the clip (good), but those are unique audio tracks, so EVERY clip might have 4-12 mics, and because clips don't share audio tracks in the old (Media Composer) paradigm, there are hundreds sometimes thousands of virtual tracks inside (bad).

Anyway, it's a great doc. Back to work...

[Whitecat]

Ah yes, the new 'trackless' editing paradigm...

[demariai]

150 channels? that sounds like a mistake.It would be really hard for the editor to have 150 audio channels in final cut on that little timeline. Why don't you double check to see what they did. I never saw that many tracks on final cut. Maybe they separated the stereo channels into mono but still a lot of tracks

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by demariai

150 channels? that sounds like a mistake.It would be really hard for the editor to have 150 audio channels in final cut on that little timeline. Why don't you double check to see what they did. I never saw that many tracks on final cut. Maybe they separated the stereo channels into mono but still a lot of tracks

Have you used FCPX? I can totally understand how this could have happened, its trackless system can be such a train wreck...

[NReichman]

150 channels? that sounds like a mistake.It would be really hard for the editor to have 150 audio channels in final cut on that little timeline. Why don't you double check to see what they did.

It's not 150 on the screen. It's on output, because each clip brings its own set of tracks to the OMF. I'm out of my depth here, but the video editor on this is really competent and really analyzed the problem.

I'm just bummed for our sake that the zillions of editors running away from FCPX aren't running to Avid- it seems they're mostly going to Premiere...

[Whitecat]

Originally Posted by NReichman

I'm just bummed for our sake that the zillions of editors running away from FCPX aren't running to Avid- it seems they're mostly going to Premiere...

Mainly because Avid is still buggy in the software-only domain and it's also bloody expensive... the crossgrade offers were OK (less good now), but once you're in, they want £500 for every dot-five upgrade. Cuts too much into the small operation's bottom line compared to an annual Adobe Cloud license considering what you get with the latter.

I'm trying to make a go with Avid here as an FCP replacement but it always manages to throw up a new type of crash I've never seen before on just about every project, despite the fact that as a tool it's very good when it is working.

[philper]

Is this a music film, w/ MT recordings of music? FCPX is such a scourge...my clients are finally starting to turn to Premiere mostly.

philp

[smurfyou]

Originally Posted by Whitecat

Mainly because Avid is still buggy in the software-only domain and it's also bloody expensive... the crossgrade offers were OK (less good now), but once you're in, they want £500 for every dot-five upgrade. Cuts too much into the small operation's bottom line compared to an annual Adobe Cloud license considering what you get with the latter.

I'm trying to make a go with Avid here as an FCP replacement but it always manages to throw up a new type of crash I've never seen before on just about every project, despite the fact that as a tool it's very good when it is working.

I keep hoping for Avid around here but it sounds like Premiere is winning. I know a lot of edtiors would prefer Avid but they're not the ones with the budgets.

[tom_lowe]

Originally Posted by Brent_in_Sydney

They cant simply arrange like with like as we would normally want. Stupid change in paradigm that makes collaboration so much more needlessly time consuming!

In Apple's ideal world I think people collaborate souly on FCPX. Besides, why would you need sound post, FCP X does it all for you!