When will it end??
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15th November 2012
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When will it end??

Yet another Mandy's listing asking for the impossible and ridiculous...
Note the clever use of the word "paid".
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LOL.

If the distributor can't arrange this or at least pay properly for it then you can imagine what sort of distribution it's got!

I guess for $200 one could run their mix one-pass through UnWrap or UM226 and be done with it.
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LOL.

If the distributor can't arrange this or at least pay properly for it then you can imagine what sort of distribution it's got!

I guess for $200 one could run their mix one-pass through UnWrap or UM226 and be done with it.
exactly just upmix the 2 track

"oh I dont need 5 days to do this job. We can get this done in 2 hours"
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hahahahahha

this is great.

one pass of heavy RX, then to some upmix plugin and ta-da. Mix finished.

seriously though, might be something there to offering services based on budget. Editors always say it's just some simple Dx clean up. Well

100$ for Vocal Rider Pass
100$ for Rx pass
100$ for upmix

seems reasonable for some shorts
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I sometimes feel like bookmarking these postings and check later to see who/if anyone ended up actually taking the job. Doesn't seem worth my time tho. These kinds of postings make me want to take the job under another name and then never deliver...
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I think we all need to bomb these people with emails explaining how cheap they are. Maybe if all these people start getting emails will change their ways
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**** that. bomb them with emails about wanting to purchase the us distribution rights to their film.
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Some kid India or Romania will take the job, do a 3/4 job of it and then spend the money to go on a bender.

TBH if nobody does the work, they'll come a time where people will stop making less than reasonable offers.

You can't even a get a plumber to call you back much less show up for what is being offered in some if those listings - though no plumber is going to hop on a plane from Manila to Wichita to fix your sink for 10 dollars.
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Some filmmakers learn. I've done at least one big job that I initially lost ("too expensive man, sorry, we're getting a friend to do it!") and then they've come back a few months later saying "we shoulda gone with you in the first place!"

Some don't even realise they're not getting the best possible job done... and 98% of these jobs are never going to be screened in anything close to a good venue anyway so they'll never know.

(Hint to filmmakers who have no audio post budget: there's a lot of reasons why you never screen in a good venue and compromising quality at the end of the process is probably one of 'em!)
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Many of these ads ask for freebies so at least this one is offering money. I agree that an up mix would be the cheapest acceptable way to get this done for the amount offered. I am never sure who takes on these types of projects. I have to assume it is either a college student or someone who is just starting out and wants some "credits" for his or her portfolio. I always want to wish them GOOD LUCK!
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As someone new to the industry, I wonder what you guys would actually charge for something like this. Keeping in mind that its a low budget film and they're likely looking for a quick job, what kind of range could I charge for a job of this nature?

I know 200 is obviously out to lunch but I genuinely have no idea what the appropriate range is.
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The important piece of information in the ad is "We have a distributor". This will mean QC approved deliverables - 5.1 MIX, 5.1 stems (fully filled), LtRt, and more. Just getting a mix through QC would require a fully filled M&E (for foreign distro) and that can be very labor intensive. And that doesn't even speak to the picture getting through QC...
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As someone new to the industry, I wonder what you guys would actually charge for something like this. Keeping in mind that its a low budget film and they're likely looking for a quick job, what kind of range could I charge for a job of this nature?

I know 200 is obviously out to lunch but I genuinely have no idea what the appropriate range is.
Considering this would require a full set-up, you can assume a good rate (depending on location of course) could be anywhere from $150-$250/hour for a room + engineer.
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Considering this would require a full set-up, you can assume a good rate (depending on location of course) could be anywhere from $150-$250/hour for a room + engineer.
Hope they can get that done in an hour
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Hope they can get that done in an hour
It's also not uncommon to have a minimum block for bookings like 2 or 4 hour minimum .
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2 hours? No way. AudioSuite that unwrap. 15 minutes tops.
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