Can i get some advice?

[Henchman]

Originally Posted by Codyjae

Hey so i have a bit of a predicament, i've been a computer major for a while now although due to at first being in associates collage originally am not incredibly far into the bachelors degree program. A year or so ago, i started dabbling in recording and production, and i loved it and studied it as much as i can on my free time. Learned alot.

Well here is my problem. Should i change majors to one such as recording industry given computers are driving me up a wall? Given my ego, i would like a career that can also benefit me financially. Is there money still in the music business? I mean not being part of large labels and companies. Or am i better of keeping my major and minoring in it?

Been killing me for months

Would love the input

Keep your major.
It will take years before you make any money in music

[philper]

Conservative parent type advice would be to get an education, both general and specific in something you can support yourself with while you do the incredible amount of legwork necessary to get even an unpaid position in a studio or post house. It's important to be attentive and persistent but not impatient, and to have a way of subsidizing your music/post career if no one else will.

philp

[Henchman]

Given the fact that the OP has stated money is a main issue,then I have to say, he's barking up the wrong tree.

[Codyjae]

Well I mean, I can live off smaller salary if it means being in business that makes me happier. I am curious at career oppurtunitoes available in that field. I am pretty ignorant in that career . I.e possible jobs

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[JoeMilner]

Hi,
First thing to keep in mind is, there's virtually no such thing as a "salary" in either the music or the post business.
My advice is to keep doing what you're doing, as someone with a degree in computers is more valuable (and employable) than a degree in recording, for which no employer really gives a s••t about. You can always learn about recording along the way, then you can start as an unpaid intern at a studio.
Good luck!

Best,

Joe

[Smallbudgetguru]

This is a starving artist business. Stick with the sure thing and dabble in your spare time IMHO

[Pedantic Sound]

Originally Posted by Codyjae

Well I mean, I can live off smaller salary if it means being in business that makes me happier.

How smaller? Unpaid internship smaller? Or $100k/yr instead of $250k/yr smaller? Especially with studio music business (more jobs in live sound if you like that) Good luck making any money for years, and even then it's usually because you got lucky and recorded a band while they were small and they took you with them when they made it big.

+1 to Henchman, if you are in this for the money even a little bit... you won't make it.

[Codyjae]

Wow did not know that but makes sense. Probably what I will do, thanks for the advice. My cousin in program at mtsu and mentioned that music for movies and tv shows along with album productions make 200 to 400k a album/movie. Now from my own research and Yalls input I feel like he is full of shit, what does it take to get there? Or does that financial success exist

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[NReichman]

mentioned that music for movies and tv shows along with album productions make 200 to 400k a album/movie

Yep. If you're Thomas Newman or U2, sure.

[danijel]

Originally Posted by NReichman

Yep. If you're Thomas Newman or U2, sure.

Compare that to the amount of money made by Steve Jobs or Bill Gates

[Henchman]

Originally Posted by Codyjae

Wow did not know that but makes sense. Probably what I will do, thanks for the advice. My cousin in program at mtsu and mentioned that music for movies and tv shows along with album productions make 200 to 400k a album/movie. Now from my own research and Yalls input I feel like he is full of shit, what does it take to get there? Or does that financial success exist

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What does it take?
5, 10, 15 years of eating Kraft dinners e paying your dues.
No even then, there's no insurance it will pay off.

If it was as simple as taking some classes at college, and graduating. Everybody would do it.

[Codyjae]

Yeah, I get the whole paying your dues and I am more than willing to do that. So school aside, how does one go into this field? How do you pay your dues? Or is it just practice and working as much as you can with whoever you can

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[AlfieProducer]

When I worked in wealth management several years ago, my boss told me to do what I truly loved. Because if I truly loved it, I would do it a lot, become an expert, and the money would follow.

It took me four years to listen to him, but he was right! Give it some careful consideration.

Good luck!

-Alfie

[PoxyMusic]

Originally Posted by Codyjae

Yeah, I get the whole paying your dues and I am more than willing to do that.

After paying your dues, you have to then get lucky.

What is "paying your dues"? Man, that's a good question.

For me it was being an assistant engineer in the early '90s, making $6 an hour, working as much as 100 hours a week. (overtime? ha!) Then, no work at all for three weeks. That $600 you were owed? That was paid when the artists/label paid for the studio 30 days later. Did I like the music? Usually not so much.

Sessions with food were great, because you could sometimes feed off the remains.

After 20 years of three steps forward/one step back I finally make a decent living at it...and I've been very lucky.

[Pedantic Sound]

Originally Posted by PoxyMusic

After 20 years of three steps forward/one step back I finally make a decent living at it...and I've been very lucky.

Hoping not to derail, but I'm an avid Blizzard game junkie (less so now due to the crazy hours of freelance) and I've always been impressed with their in game sound, awesome job over there.

[PoxyMusic]

Originally Posted by Pedantic Sound

Hoping not to derail, but I'm an avid Blizzard game junkie (less so now due to the crazy hours of freelance) and I've always been impressed with their in game sound, awesome job over there.

Why thank you! One of the things they really give us is TIME. Makes all the difference.

[Codyjae]

Originally Posted by PoxyMusic

After paying your dues, you have to then get lucky.

What is "paying your dues"? Man, that's a good question.

For me it was being an assistant engineer in the early '90s, making $6 an hour, working as much as 100 hours a week. (overtime? ha!) Then, no work at all for three weeks. That $600 you were owed? That was paid when the artists/label paid for the studio 30 days later. Did I like the music? Usually not so much.

Sessions with food were great, because you could sometimes feed off the remains.

After 20 years of three steps forward/one step back I finally make a decent living at it...and I've been very lucky.

Ok so without any formal education or limited, how do you go about finding an internship or getting experience you need? I really wanna learn and will do whatever it takes. Gonna take yalls advice and minor in it but spend every spare second trying to perform the best I can at this!

If I could get any tips I would be so thankful, I want to start this now, or at least take a couple first steps

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[PoxyMusic]

Originally Posted by Codyjae

how do you go about finding an internship or getting experience you need?

Well, I don't know if it's any different today, but I just called up a studio where my band had recorded. They had me shampooing carpets at 6am the very next day.

It wasn't long before I was shampooing carpets during the coveted 2pm slot.

[Codyjae]

Originally Posted by PoxyMusic

Well, I don't know if it's any different today, but I just called up a studio where my band had recorded. They had me shampooing carpets at 6am the very next day.

It wasn't long before I was shampooing carpets during the coveted 2pm slot.

Slightly intimidating, but if that's what I gotta do I guess that's what I gotta do

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