20th December 2012
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#121 | | Gear maniac
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We tried using a Mac mini 2011 with thunderbolt as a video satellite. The thin can barely play a QuickTime in pro tools. How could it ever run a session?
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20th December 2012
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#122 | | GS Community Manager
Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Surrey / London  | Quote:
Originally Posted by brandoncross  We tried using a Mac mini 2011 with thunderbolt as a video satellite. The thin can barely play a QuickTime in pro tools. How could it ever run a session? | Something has to be wrong with your config. I've now done a feature documentary and three short dramas on my mini (server) and it barely hiccups.
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20th December 2012
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#123 | | Gear addict
Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 454
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Originally Posted by brandoncross We tried using a Mac mini 2011 with thunderbolt as a video satellite. The thin can barely play a QuickTime in pro tools. How could it ever run a session? | Were you using the Mini Server or stock Mini? Did you disable the server software or downgrade the OS?
There are several success stories here, enough to (almost) convince me to buy one.
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20th December 2012
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#124 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Roswell, GA |
Seems like he may have been using a regular Mac mini.
Nicole
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20th December 2012
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#125 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2006 Location: Sydney
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I always thought the original minis had a dedicated graphics card? The servers don't, however I have had very few issues playing back HD video over thunderbolt (much better an a Avid Mojo could ever perform).
Try a different codec?
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20th December 2012
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#126 | | Gear Head
Joined: Aug 2011 Location: Los Angeles |
I agree. I've done a feature doc, an indie feature, and 3 decently complex shorts on my 2011 mac mini server and I haven't had any hardware complaints and definitely no problems on Quicktime playback. I do have 16gigs of RAM in it, that helps a lot with PT10.
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21st December 2012
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#127 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2011
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You know, it's a studio I freelance at but no way would I think about using the vid sat there for any real work. It can barely host a screen share. It's probably just set up incorrectly.
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22nd December 2012
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#128 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 276
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Originally Posted by brandoncross We tried using a Mac mini 2011 with thunderbolt as a video satellite. The thin can barely play a QuickTime in pro tools. How could it ever run a session? | An update. It's a i5 dual core Mac mini. Video via black magic thunderbolt hdmi converter. Today we switched the video to the hdmi on the Mac mini and it played well. Maybe a beefier Mac mini would work for some post mixes.
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23rd December 2012
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#129 | | GS Community Manager
Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Surrey / London | Quote:
Originally Posted by brandoncross An update. It's a i5 dual core Mac mini. Video via black magic thunderbolt hdmi converter. Today we switched the video to the hdmi on the Mac mini and it played well. Maybe a beefier Mac mini would work for some post mixes. | The 2011 server is a quad-core i7 which is quite a bit quicker than the dual-core i5s...
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23rd December 2012
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#130 | | Gear addict
Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 454
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Originally Posted by Whitecat The 2011 server is a quad-core i7 which is quite a bit quicker than the dual-core i5s... | True, but it should still be able to play a video just fine. If they were playing it off the internal drive that's probably the issue. The drive might not be fast enough for an HD stream?
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24th December 2012
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#131 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 276
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No it was just the black magic ultrastudio thunderbolt thing. Horrible performance. Internal hdmi worked fine. Video was on an external FireWire btw.
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7th January 2013
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#132 | | Gear interested
Joined: Dec 2012
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No luck with downloading SL Instaler.dmg 
After 1Gb server is braking connection and no RESTORE allowed.
Anyone from Europe had more luck?
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16th January 2013
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#133 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 15
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I've seen a lot of people promote the Refurb 2011 Server i7 with dual 7200 drives. It's a good deal right now on apple at $750 but is it worth saving $50 over the new 2.3 i7 with 1TB 5400 drive and the extra $80 for a 500 GB, 7200 rpm internal from OWC??
Upgrading RAM would be the same for both so that aside.... $750 for the 2.0 GHz or $870 for a new 2.3 GHz with the after market OWC Drive. Any positive or negative? I am running PT10, Tracking (12 tracks sim) and mixing full sessions with plugs.
Cheers
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16th January 2013
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#134 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: LA, USA Thread Starter  | Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisBrunoMusic I've seen a lot of people promote the Refurb 2011 Server i7 with dual 7200 drives. It's a good deal right now on apple at $750 but is it worth saving $50 over the new 2.3 i7 with 1TB 5400 drive and the extra $80 for a 500 GB, 7200 rpm internal from OWC??
Upgrading RAM would be the same for both so that aside.... $750 for the 2.0 GHz or $870 for a new 2.3 GHz with the after market OWC Drive. Any positive or negative? I am running PT10, Tracking (12 tracks sim) and mixing full sessions with plugs.
Cheers | It's definitely a good deal.
Unless you need to run snow leopard for backwards compatability with some programs.
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16th January 2013
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#135 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 15
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Originally Posted by Henchman It's definitely a good deal.
Unless you need to run snow leopard for backwards compatability with some programs. | Nope, don't need SL.
Guess I'm just wondering if it is worth the $120 for the faster processor and newer version.
Cheers
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16th January 2013
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#136 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: LA, USA Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisBrunoMusic Nope, don't need SL.
Guess I'm just wondering if it is worth the $120 for the faster processor and newer version.
Cheers | I don't really know to be honest.
You can't go wrong either way, I think.
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17th January 2013
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#137 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Canada
Posts: 759
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Originally Posted by ChrisBrunoMusic Nope, don't need SL.
Guess I'm just wondering if it is worth the $120 for the faster processor and newer version.
Cheers | Go with the new mini 2.3/i7, i own both the 2011 server and the 2012 (2.3/i7) non server. I noticed a good 20-30% improvements with the 2012 model. I'm using them as dedicated VIs machines.
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8th February 2013
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#138 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Roswell, GA | Quote:
Originally Posted by vudoo Go with the new mini 2.3/i7, i own both the 2011 server and the 2012 (2.3/i7) non server. I noticed a good 20-30% improvements with the 2012 model. I'm using them as dedicated VIs machines. |
I am looking at getting one finally and was wondering is having the 5400rpm drives a major setback verses the 7200rpm?
I would be using mines for Nuendo and sometimes Pro Tools.
Thanks
Nicole
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8th February 2013
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#139 | | Gear addict
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 489
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Originally Posted by misscc803 I am looking at getting one finally and was wondering is having the 5400rpm drives a major setback verses the 7200rpm? | Definitely.
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8th February 2013
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#140 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 209
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I am looking at getting one finally and was wondering is having the 5400rpm drives a major setback verses the 7200rpm?
| In my experience with OSX laptops, you can feel the difference between 5200 and 7200 rpm right away in application launch time, user interface save functions, even web browsing.
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8th February 2013
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#141 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Canada
Posts: 759
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Originally Posted by misscc803 I am looking at getting one finally and was wondering is having the 5400rpm drives a major setback verses the 7200rpm?
I would be using mines for Nuendo and sometimes Pro Tools.
Thanks
Nicole | My mini has the Fusion drive....it's fast!!!!
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9th February 2013
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#142 | | Gear addict
Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 454
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Originally Posted by NReichman In my experience with OSX laptops, you can feel the difference between 5200 and 7200 rpm right away in application launch time, user interface save functions, even web browsing. | Ditto.
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10th February 2013
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#143 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Roswell, GA |
I found a guy that customizes mac mini and he can put 7200rpm drives in verses the 5400rpm. I will see how that goes. Thanks for all the info/input.
Nicole
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10th February 2013
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#144 | | Gear addict
Joined: Aug 2007 | Quote:
Originally Posted by vudoo My mini has the Fusion drive....it's fast!!!! | How fast is the standard HD part of the fusion drive? I'm thinking of getting a Mac mini myself and the fusion drive looks interesting.
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10th February 2013
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#145 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Melbourne
Posts: 557
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Originally Posted by matt82aust They are quite a bargain. I have the same model as Mark, using it for simple tv series and complicated short form work. It absolutely nailed a very full on spot which had many many many tracks of sound design, virtual instruments, music mix and sound design mix whilst playing back HD video consistently with client in the room HAL 30 SEC LAUNCH Promo on Vimeo
I have it sitting in a sonnet rack with a few hard drives in the spare side. It does get noisy however when pushing a session hard. I plan to run all hard drives (system, working, SFX) externally in the future to see if that helps with the fan noise. But combined with a blackmagic thunderbolt card, and some euphonix faders, is a great set up | Nice promo, sounds good on air too, do you do much work for fox sports? Was the virtual instruments used in the music mix?
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5th March 2013
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#146 | | Gear interested
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 2
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Guys, Is anybody running new Mac Mini Server with PT 10?
What system do you use there?
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7th March 2013
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#147 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2006 Location: Sydney
Posts: 351
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Originally Posted by BIGBANGBUZZ Nice promo, sounds good on air too, do you do much work for fox sports? Was the virtual instruments used in the music mix?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk | Thanks! Bits and pieces really, moreso stuff that comes from the music production side leading into sound design. I believe the composer (Justin Shave of Uncanny Valley) used both VIs and live instruments / vocals. We then took all tracks into the sound design session (as audio files) for quite a large mix. The mini did pretty well considering the amount of processing going on, but was hitting the limits at the end of it!
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3 Weeks Ago
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#148 | | Gear interested
Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Lisbon
Posts: 26
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Originally Posted by Henchman And if you want to use HD cards, there are several thunderbolt chassis availabel that are cheaper than the old expansion chassis. | The "old" HD PCIe cards don't work with the thunderbolt chassis. 
Avid, I'd love to get my HD3 with a MacMini.
Marco
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