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Old 26th October 2012   #1
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Trailer Dialogues Depth & Mixing

Hey Guys, First thread, please go easy on Me.

Here goes, I am working as a Soundguy [Usually means making music, doing foley, backgrounds, SFX, mixing, mastering etc.]. From where i come from we dont have Dolby etc. The film industry is new and growing. Hence we dont get alot of people who have worked on films. Well in a year you get 14 anticipated films. But only 2 or 3 actually do come out.

So keeping the above details in mind, and understanding my position i needed some help. We just finished the trailer. Everything in the trailer sounds good and hip as far as my producer is concerned. But both me and the director feel that the new ADR'd fresh vocals dont have depth in them. In other words when we listen to them on headphones it feels that they are right there ON the SCREEN as opposed to in the film.

Complete Noob here, so please go easy and help.
The Movie's teaser is here "https://vimeo.com/46300835" The trailer is of 2 mins. But the teaser just gives you the feel of the product that im developing and am really excited to be a part of.
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If I understand correctly you are asking a forum how to mix. Welp, ADR mixing in a nutshell-

EQ automation to match production
EQ automation for perspective
Volume and reverb automation for perspective.

The perspective comes from your mixing, if you can't do it I know of a few people who can...
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Thanks for the reply Mister T. Well i am a newbie in terms of Film And Post Production, its all Indie route and we really cannot afford to go beyond our limitations.

Its really the perspective thats causing me problems, so your right there. Let me try and work around the techniques that you have mentioned. Hope for the best. Will be posting the trailer here too for feedback.
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just a guess, but could the ADR be recorded too close? Ideally you record ADR in a larger, very neutral room, so you can get some distance between the actor and the mike. This will sound more natural and probably more like the rest of the dialogue recorded on set.

If you record ADR in a less than optimal room and mike too close to avoid "roomsound", you'll have to work much harder to have it match the production dialogue and it will always sound a bit "on top" of the mix as opposed to " in the mix". Don't be afraid to do some radical EQ to the ADR to match it with production dialogue.

So good ADR needs a few things: performance from the actor, a great room, the right mike(s) - the same as on set if you can get them- the right miking distance. How many of these did you get right?
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I would also add the right choice of backgrounds, properly performed foley.

Next come the art of mixing.

As you can see, there are several factors at every step of the process, so if there is a little compromise at any of them (like problems with performance or close miking) those compromises accumulate in the end giving one big compromise.

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Thanks for the reply guys. Yeah Pethensis your right, the ADR came to me from another facility (Govt. Owned) and since the guy was making no sense i believe he didnt really know how to deal with the ADR situation. It is sound a bit on "TOP of the Mix" i have done radical EQ'ing but its not really helping my situation. I am letting it go for the trailer, without foley or any BGs. Working with automating music, and SFX to make it sound a bit natural. I have to put it up on Vimeo today for the distributors viewing. Hopefully there will be alot of other elements that play in favour. Will be uploading on this thread, your critiques and feedback would be more than welcome guys. Thanks again, this is really encouraging.
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