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Old 26th September 2012   #1
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Film composer's 5.1 studio - various questions

I am helping my friend, who makes a living producing songs and background scores (for Bollywood like films), setup his studio.

We were thinking of a two channel setup, but yesterday it occurred to us that we could possibly accomplish a lot more from this studio. He has always been dissatisfied with the amount of time devoted to mixing background scores (very little, in his case), and feels that he would be better off giving the re-recording engineer with a PT session that already has the mix spread out and tonally shaped, the way he would like it. Of course, nothing would be burned in. The re-recording engineer will have full flexibility, but hopefully will only need to make a few tweaks for the final translation and for balancing with the other elements.

Now, we are clearly aware that we will never meet Dolby requirements or any such, but my understanding is that in the current economy, engineers have adapted to working on film mixes in smaller rooms... I seek your inputs in getting us there...

The layout of the room is as follows. We will be using 4Pi speakers for L,C,R as you see in the second pic. I am considering JBL 8320s in the positions indicated below, for left and right surrounds (two speakers for each channel). This is just my starting point... your inputs will help me decide what to do with the surround channels.

Now my first problem is that the 8320 has "SMPTE/ISO2969 Curve X high
frequency de-emphasis"... my understanding that x-curve implementation should not be applied when working in small rooms, in the manner we plan to... Also the LCR channels do not have x-curve applied to them..., so I expect a drastic timbral shift while panning from the mains to the surrounds... Is this going to become a problem? I would like to use the Jbls as they are dirt cheap here, and many theaters and mix stages here use them.

I myself am a Cubase user, and for the heck of it, I setup a surround system with nearfields for a while - I had no trouble setting up the monitoring system for this situation. I imagine that we will set it up similarly at my friend's place with his PT rig (I myself am unfamiliar with PT)... he and all the re-recording engineers he works with use PT. Am I guessing correctly, that we can manage without a Dolby CP650 or similar, given that the final delivery medium could be Dolby or DTS encoded, or uncompressed .wav files that some of the new hard disk based playback systems demand... these things would come within the domain of the studio where the re-recording mixer is doing the final mix... am I correct?

What do I have to do facilitate translation from this small room setup to the mix stage? Of course time and experience will help, and we will have loudspeaker management with equalization options to take us there - but are there any fundamental considerations that I am neglecting?



The front of the completed room will look similar to this...



Thank you for your inputs...
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I very rarely bump my own post, please excuse me... I request the experienced to take a moment to address my questions... I really need some clarity here...
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all difficult to answer questions.

I'd say try and use at least the same brand of speakers for front & rear and don't use the X-curve. You don't need a Dolby CP and try to get the room sounding as flat as you can without EQ'ing the speakers. Most people would advise to shoot the speakers down the long end of the room, but it's very small.

How will it translate? Like you said, time and experience.
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