D-comand and Mc Mix

[pethenis]

Originally Posted by yionel

Hello ,
My name is Lionel and i m a french sound engineer,
I m building a new post production studio based in Paris and i ve got a problem
I d like to use a mc mix with my d-command on Protools 9 (mac) but i can't
Does anyone can help me?
Thanks

Lionel
VEGA Prod

Untill Eucon arrives for D-commands (AVID said that was in the plans) you can't. I personally think it's never going to happen. Shame, I have a D-command as well and wouldn't mind a "sidecar" mc mix. A 16 fader extension is too much money for me

[brandoncross]

I don't think it will ever happen. Avid would stop selling 10,000 fader packs and sell the hell out of 1,000 artist mixes. No much of a business model.

[rcutz]

If you have a D-Command, why are you looking for use a MC MIX? Maybe I`m getting it wrong... because when I google "mc mix" it return the small 8 faders Artist Series. Are you talking about the MC PRO?

[brandoncross]

Originally Posted by rcutz

If you have a D-Command, why are you looking for use a MC MIX? Maybe I`m getting it wrong... because when I google "mc mix" it return the small 8 faders Artist Series. Are you talking about the MC PRO?

Artist mix is much cheaper than a fader pack for a d command

[yionel]

Thanks for your answer, it s true MX MIX is more cheaper than a fader pack! and Eucon system is much better . I call Avid this morning and they confirm that don t work and they are working on it, maybe on e day...

[Branko]

Originally Posted by yionel

...MX MIX is more cheaper than a fader pack! and Eucon system is much better...

Just out of curiosity, what is so much better? I always felt ICON integration is perfect...
Can you explain?

[yionel]

Hello Branco,
The icon system is a very good one, but when you work on a system 5 with a Eucon protocol and the based system of the euphonic S5, i personally think that it 's a good and easy way to work.I just hope one day we can use the both protocol ( Icon system and Eucon )

Best Regards
Lionel

Ps :
I think , we already met in France at Film Factory! You just finish Insensible and i was mixing after you a movie there!

[rcutz]

Hi yionel, I have here a situation more or less like yours. I have been used to mix on S5 - with or without eucon and for me it is the best solution I have the pleasure to work. Much more sophisticated then an Icon. When mixing in my project studio I have one Artist Control and on Mix. With PT 10 and Eucon, at the Mc Control I have been able to replicate the layout mode and straight access to most important automation features of PT. And I even have 12 faders.
What I really don`t get is why this mix of an D-Command and the mc mix. Why not going straight Artist? Is your room to "big" for just artits controllers? I hope don`t bother you asking.

[yionel]

Originally Posted by rcutz

Hi yionel, I have here a situation more or less like yours. I have been used to mix on S5 - with or without eucon and for me it is the best solution I have the pleasure to work. Much more sophisticated then an Icon. When mixing in my project studio I have one Artist Control and on Mix. With PT 10 and Eucon, at the Mc Control I have been able to replicate the layout mode and straight access to most important automation features of PT. And I even have 12 faders.
What I really don`t get is why this mix of an D-Command and the mc mix. Why not going straight Artist? Is your room to "big" for just artits controllers? I hope don`t bother you asking.

It s a pleasure to have a lot of point of view about the mixing choice !
i v got a Icon system because i find it whith a very very good price and the luck to have a room of 40 meter2 to mix project.
So , my choice is the icon system, but i hope one day i cold mix the both with an artist one!
Even if you right , the good and easy tool to mix is a good System 5 or a AMS Neeve ( I d like this on too...!

[Branko]

Hello Lionel, good to see you here! I wish you success in your struggle for a better studio.
I understand the idea of expanding the mix surface with some extra faders, and I understand even more your attempt to spend as few money as possible, but I'm afraid you're asking for the impossible. As someone pointed out earlier, you cannot expect AVID to allow cheap expansion options for a system, not only for economic reasons, but for maintaining the intended functionality.
What you're asking for is something like adding a 16-ch Behringer to a SSL 4K.
How many faders you've got on that D-command?

[yionel]

you right , A behringer with SSL !! lol
I ve got a 24 fader , in fact my idea was simple , i have to mix a movie in few month and i think to expand the icon with the mc mix for the sound editor! but i think find now an other 16 fader expansion!

[Henchman]

Why waste money on another 16 faders if you already have 24?
Using custom faders, it's easy as pie to mix a feature with 24 faders.

[minister]

Originally Posted by yionel

It s a pleasure to have a lot of point of view about the mixing choice !
i v got a Icon system because i find it whith a very very good price and the luck to have a room of 40 meter2 to mix project.
So , my choice is the icon system, but i hope one day i cold mix the both with an artist one!
Even if you right , the good and easy tool to mix is a good System 5 or a AMS Neeve ( I d like this on too...!

Do you really need more than 24? Why not use Custom Faders???

[ggegan]

Dude, you only have 8 fingers (thumbs don't count). I have a 24 fader D-Command, but I rarely touch more than 2 faders at a time. Learn how to manage track visibility and access using memory locations, custom faders and show/hide.

You can use the Object Grabber to quickly drag across and select all the clips in a sequence and then hit the Show Selected button on the D-Command. All tracks except the ones with the clips you are interested in will disappear from both the screen and the surface. That brings things down to a workable number of tracks that are all adjacent to each other. When you are done, use a Memory Location with track visibility data to take you back to viewing all the tracks.

[Branko]

I think Lionel wants to create a simple 2-men setup to let the sound editor mix his effects on a separate set of faders.

[Henchman]

Originally Posted by Branko

I think Lionel wants to create a simple 2-men setup to let the sound editor mix his effects on a separate set of faders.

Pointless, unless you are running 2 separate systems.

[Branko]

That's what I thought...

[yionel]

You 'r right Branko,
I just want to create à simple 2 men setup,
One who use the icôn protocol on a d command even if he is using less than 24 fader and another with a mc mix with eucon protocol .
But now i Know it s not possible.
Thanks a lot for all your answer.
Lionel