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Old 4th September 2012   #1
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Failed Tech for too much Dynamic Range!

Hi Slutz

Anyone had any experience of this....

In the middle of a delivery for an international ad campaign for a forthcoming game cant say any more than that until the release date has passed.

We have been doing VO in French, Italian, German, Spanish (or FIGS) and English. I was given a spec for delivery standards by the client which was PPM6 peaks aka BBC scale. We have had a bit of back and forth as the foreign language VO was recorded a few times as the client changed the script around, the upshot of which is we are delivering close to the deadline and so have been using Clearcast to tech preview fro delivery to channels.

After a UK delivery Clearcast failed it due to and end tag for a popular console (which was one of the late changes) was failed due to being at PPM 5 and below which would result in the Ad having "too much dynamic range". Just so you know the actual dynamic range of the ad on the PPMs was from PPM4 to PPM6. the Tag sat on the end of the ad without anything going on under it and was in my opinion pretty loud. I fixed it to the suggested level and now to me sounds way too loud.

I cant help but think that this was not really listened too but just looked at on some meters and an auto flag was produced. I do not know how this works so i could just be blowing bubbles here, so if anyone has any clue how this is done I would appreciate the insights.

Bit miffed of getting an ad knocked back for a "lack" of dynamic range especially in the light of itu-R BS.1770 / EBU R128. I have submitted nearly 40 ads over the last 18 months without a single knock back and now failing for too much dynamic range..
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Try adding more low end to the VO, it will be physically louder but not perceived as too much louder. Yes they looked at the meters and flagged it, that's their job. QC people check specs. If something just sounds louder it would be safe to assume that's what the producer's wanted. They're not going to kick back a graphic for being "too bright" as long as it's in spec, that's subjective.
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Give 'em a ring Lion. Always helpful to have a chat about things. QC guys aren't as scary and unapproachable as we all tend to think of them as

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Give 'em a ring Lion. Always helpful to have a chat about things. QC guys aren't as scary and unapproachable as we all tend to think of them as

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Hi Matt, I did ring them, but couldn't get them to move, it is all sorted now anyway and the deadline met, just irks that I had too much dynamic range and the perceived loudness on the original file was just fine and now seems to go through the roof!

I will post the ad title as soon as it airs and see what people think..

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