22nd August 2012
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#1 | | Gear addict
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 489
Thread Starter | Trying to get Blu Ray audio into PTools
I got a USB Blu Ray drive and downloaded MakeMkv to rip my Blu Ray disk.
In the settings I grabbed the discrete 5.1 audio.
Resulting .mkv file plays fine in VLC. But I need to import the audio as .wav files into Pro Tools. I tried re-encoding the file with Handbrake to no avail.
Each time it produced a file that wasn't playable by anything including Perian, VLC, and Mpeg Streamclip. I even tried encoding just audio, no video.
Can anyone give me an advice on this? I am considering going through with a Blu Ray player's HDMI out into a Blackmagic capture card to see if I can grab it that way. |
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30th August 2012
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#2 | | Gear interested
Joined: Dec 2010 Location: Moscow, Russia
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I've recently spent a few complete days to solve this problem on Mac.
My algorithm:
A1. Convert mkv to mp4 with no sound by Handbrake.
A2. Convert mp4 to DVPAL mov by MPEG Streamclip. So you got movie file for PT.
B1. Convert original mkv to mkv with audio conversion to FLAC (6-channel discrete).
B2. Extract flac from obtained mkv by MKVExtractGUI ( MKVExtractGUI-2 2.2.2.9 - VideoHelp.com Downloads) into a separate file.
B3. Extract poly wav from obtained flac by XLD converter.
B4. Import obtained poly wav into Pro Tools.
Here you go!
P.S. Countless experiments showed that it seems to be the only one way to get a multichannel Blue-Ray audio into PT =)
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31st August 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2005 Location: London, England |
Why not try getting hold of a piece of software called AudioMuxer?
This will do exactly what you need - turn the BD into 6 WAV files - all in one interface, no messing around. Okay it needs to be set up properly but there are full instructions with it.
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2nd September 2012
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#4 | | Gear addict
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 489
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I carried this task to a Windows machine and it solved itself within minutes!
Downloaded a free program called Video Converter. Converted the .mkv audio into poly .aif. And in minutes I had my discrete audio files in PT (albeit with wrong channel order).
Very impressed.
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5th September 2012
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#5 | | Gear interested
Joined: Dec 2010 Location: Moscow, Russia
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Yeah, but the kernel of my challenge was to do demux mkv on MAC. I didn't want to install Windows on my Mac for the sake of this task only )
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5th September 2012
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#6 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,277
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Originally Posted by _KiT_ Yeah, but the kernel of my challenge was to do demux mkv on MAC. I didn't want to install Windows on my Mac for the sake of this task only ) | How about getting a 40€ BD player with discrete outs and record that into PT?
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5th September 2012
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#7 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 741
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its a lot easier than all of the above solutions -> you can export a 6 channel WAV directly with VLC.
File -> Streaming/Export Wizard -> Transcode/Save to file ->Transcode Audio (Uncompressed).
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6th September 2012
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#8 | | Gear addict
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 489
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In my experience VLC doesn't produce a result that is usable.
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9th September 2012
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#9 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 741
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Originally Posted by Mundox In my experience VLC doesn't produce a result that is usable. | you are right... just checked it and it doesn't work anymore. but they will fix this bug in 2.04 and I just discovered that they will release a new export/convert-dialog with 2.1: Convert and Save - feepk@videolan |
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10th September 2012
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#10 | | Gear addict
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 489
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Cool, good to know. |
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27th October 2012
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#11 | | Gear interested
Joined: Sep 2011 Location: Brighton
Posts: 8
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Just responded to a similar post. Audacity will import the .mkv no problem, 6 tracks ask individual, then you can just bounce the tracks out individually. Worked for me
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28th October 2012
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#12 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: NYC
Posts: 233
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PAVTUBE!
Seriously, I make ProRes rips of Blu rays with proper discrete PCM audio for checking on my system. You can make DNXHD, h264 quick times etc. it's free to try with only a visual watermark so if you just need to check mixes then its fine. Or if you want no watermark and better multi threaded encodes its 39 dollars.
I went through all the workflows to do this and was so mad i couldn't just make a QuickTime, then I discovered PAVTUBE.
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14th December 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Barcelona
Posts: 716
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Originally Posted by Max Holland PAVTUBE!
Seriously, I make ProRes rips of Blu rays with proper discrete PCM audio for checking on my system. You can make DNXHD, h264 quick times etc. it's free to try with only a visual watermark so if you just need to check mixes then its fine. Or if you want no watermark and better multi threaded encodes its 39 dollars.
I went through all the workflows to do this and was so mad i couldn't just make a QuickTime, then I discovered PAVTUBE. | Today I purchased pavtube after demoing it and must say it works perfectly for lossless BD Ripping. The software in fact is called iMedia Converter from the company Pavtube. Thanks Max for the recommendation, which I subscribe.
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12th February 2013
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#14 | | Gear addict
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 489
Thread Starter |
Yes Pavtube seems to tackle the task quite smoothly, thanks guys.
However, when I bring the 5.1 tracks into my session, channel order is all over the place. Any idea how to fix that?
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12th February 2013
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#15 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: NYC
Posts: 233
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Originally Posted by Mundox Yes Pavtube seems to tackle the task quite smoothly, thanks guys.
However, when I bring the 5.1 tracks into my session, channel order is all over the place. Any idea how to fix that? | I usually just split into mono and arrange the tracks into the proper LCRLsRsLFE format Pro Tools likes and drag them back to a 5.1 track... its usually pretty easy to discern which tracks are which (center is mostly dialog, LFE is low end, Left and Right are louder and have most of the music, surrounds are softer and usually have some verb or something supporting the music but not always.)
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12th February 2013
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#16 | | Gear addict
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 489
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Holland I usually just split into mono and arrange the tracks into the proper LCRLsRsLFE format Pro Tools likes and drag them back to a 5.1 track... its usually pretty easy to discern which tracks are which (center is mostly dialog, LFE is low end, Left and Right are louder and have most of the music, surrounds are softer and usually have some verb or something supporting the music but not always.) | Yep, that's been my way of fixing it too. I wondered if there was a way to alter it in the app.
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13th February 2013
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#17 | | Gear Head
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 70
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Did you guys know once upon a time Minnetonka had a quicktime DTS decoder codec. i think the cost was $50. I wish someone would do this again. i rather just decode then create new media.
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13th February 2013
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#18 | | Gear addict
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 489
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Yeah but by ripping Bluray we are accessing PCM files, untouched by encoder/decoder. |
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