Which Noise Reduction-PlugIn do you prefer... and why?

[Vytis]

1. Cedar DNS One
2. Izotope RX2

Nothing can beat Cedar...

[itsyourself]

3. Spectral Layers

[apple-q]

Originally Posted by Save The Vinyl

Hey there!

I'm looking for Noise Reduction-PlugINs (ProTools AU/RTAS). I like the Waves Restoration-Suite, but I'm not sure if it's currently the best solution... due to the fact that this suite was released years ago.
So, I'm interested in your favorite tools fighting against different noises like room tones, fans, crackles, clicks, random noises, whatever....

Thank you!

There is no one-size fits all plugin. They all have their ups and downs.

DNS one does not de-crackle for example.

My personal choice depends on the type of noise.

For de-clicking I still find the NoNoise manual de-clicker best. The RX is good but not as good.

De-Noising: Depends. Some work is best done with multi band expanders (C4, multi dynamics, Dolby 430, 43) each of them having a different character. The dolbys are great because they never sound digital no matter how hard you push them (unlike RX, Cedar or others)
RX will give you great results but you need time. Cedar is fast to set and operate and gives good results but you'll get space-monkeys at some point unlike with the Dolby units.

De-Clipping: RX

Below the line: You will need a whole bunch to tackle all problems.

Waves X-Noise: my least favorite. Space monkey time.

The best bang for the buck all over starter package might be RX. Try to get SonicNoise on ebay. The de-clicker alone is worth the price.

[Save The Vinyl]

Thanx a lot !

[Henchman]

Cedar.

[Alexey Lukin]

Originally Posted by apple-q

For de-clicking I still find the NoNoise manual de-clicker best. The RX is good but not as good.

I don't have NoNoise at hand, but would be interested to learn about its quality. Do you have any before/after sample where it shines?

[apple-q]

Originally Posted by Alexey Lukin

I don't have NoNoise at hand, but would be interested to learn about its quality. Do you have any before/after sample where it shines?

Sorry. I won't be in my studio for a few weeks but you can rent the plugin for 2 days in the AVID store.

I think there's a demo too.

[charles maynes]

I have the Oxford suite, RX2, WNS, W43 and multiband dynamics C4 and ML4000-

the RX suite seems to the most cpu intensive, but it does sound pretty good-

the Sonnox stuff is also very good, though I think their strength is in the decrackle - dehum realm-

WNS is really doing nicely for me for broadband NR- I like it much more than the other plugins for that- and it is very easy on the cpu-

W43 is very nice if you are in a Cat 43 sort of mood-

C4 and ML4000 are very handy for doing more effects sort of work- IE using them as expanders to tame BG noises....

[Henchman]

Originally Posted by charles maynes

C4 and ML4000 are very handy for doing more effects sort of work- IE using them as expanders to tame BG noises....

Which of those do you prefer as an expander?

[charles maynes]

Originally Posted by Henchman

Which of those do you prefer as an expander?

thats a tough one- I think they can get the same results- its just a matter of what interface is more comfortable for you.... I have probably used C4 more over the years, but thats mainly due to it existing for a lot longer time-

I am really interested in getting C6 though, as it has two floating bands that sound like they could be pretty handy....

[Electric Blue]

ive never had any issues using the noise reduction in sound forge. great to analyze the noise and reduce to taste.

[cocamycola89]

You can get a lot done quickly with some EQ and C4. For particularly noisy audio I will sometimes audio suite some light x-noise as well.

Since we are on the subject where in the chain is noise reduction most effective? Been experimenting with this for some time and I prefer to have it almost at the start of the signal chain but that´s just me.

[paranerd]

iZotope RX2 suite. Cheap and works very well.

[ErikG]

Where to do NR in the chain?
After lo/hi filters but before any other dynamics processing. Deessing can work ahead of NR though.
Personally I prefer to do it destructively most of the time. And when done destructively you should apply NR before fade in/outs. Make sure to split the sounds by mic angle/take/noise profile to be able to work quickly.

[Steven1145]

Originally Posted by Vytis

1. Cedar DNS One
2. Izotope RX2

Nothing can beat Cedar...

+1000

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[Mundox]

RX beats Cedar dealing with tonal content. (buzz, cicadas etc)
Cedar beats RX at broadband.

[TinderArts]

I use RX2 at work daily and I have grown very fond of the NR capacities. I have the Waves, Algorithmix and a few other NR plugs (not Cedar). Doing a few passes with different settings at different frequency ranges with RX can yield excellent results that I haven't been able to match with anything else yet. For the money, RX2 is the strongest restoration suite I know of.

I'll be doing a couple RX2 training videos for work in the next few days. If they allow me, I'll post a link to the the NR portion for folks to check out.

[Branko]

Originally Posted by ErikG

Where to do NR in the chain?

I always have some notch filters (NF575 or UN-EQUILIZER) in front of WNS to clean up some static whistles and/or hums before NR.
All the EQ and compression & de-essing comes after.
As we're talkin' NR, I have to say I'm using RX2 more every day, because somehow it doesn't affect the "space" on tracks that much.

[smurfyou]

Originally Posted by charles maynes

I am really interested in getting C6 though, as it has two floating bands that sound like they could be pretty handy....

I picked up the C6 recently. It was on sale and I had a voucher from another purchase so I got it cheap. I like it, seems to work just like the C4 with extra flex bands. If you have the C4 I don't know that its worth the full asking price, but if its on sale I'd recommend it.

[soundboy]

I just used RX2 spectral repair to remove the club sounds (distant) from a few dialog tracks! I love this tool. Also my CEDAR and Cat. 43, and X Noise. Each for different problems and different results.

[misscc803]

I like the Waves W43 it works great but won't work for everything. I am looking to get X noise from Waves as well and some other plug ins.

Nicole

[feaker]

Originally Posted by Vytis

1. Cedar DNS One
2. Izotope RX2

Nothing can beat Cedar...

-totally

The only thing that I would add is take a swing with the dip filters first if it's that kinda noise. I use Q10.

My chain for noise is Q10 then usually 2 cedar instances. That way I don't get all gatey on tonal stuff. With the cedar I use one to carve trouble spots and the second one to give it an overall if I need it.

I use RX a lot too. Some times RX is a savior, sometimes it makes it all worse. I find that RX can be a little less forgiving in general, but its usually the second thing that i'm reaching for after cedar. For trouble spots I usually end up using all of the above. I spank it with Izotope, then soften the edges with cedar.

Oh how I love cedar, if I had to pick only one plugin.....


But altiverb would be my mistress.

[Smallbudgetguru]

+1 cedar , rx , sonnox, wns, q10 for notch

[John T]

I've had to go through some really bad recordings with everything from 60 cycle hum to tape hiss to removing a really obnoxious cricket and have found that Izotope RX performed well and is pretty cheap.

[BIGBANGBUZZ]

It's never a one trick pony..
You need a 3 or 4 tools in your arsenal

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[BrokenSilenceEnt]

Dobt understand the hate for x-noise, I use it very lightly on sone problem vocals i get from outside sources and it works like a charm.

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[Sixstringzzz]

The Waves bundle have always served me well. No fuss and sound good.

[soundfx]

Originally Posted by BrokenSilenceEnt

Dobt understand the hate for x-noise, I use it very lightly on sone problem vocals i get from outside sources and it works like a charm.

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Neither do I. I've tried Izotope and all the other Waves NR plugs but found X-Noise to work the best for me with few discernible artifacts.

[Filthrill]

How many mastering guys on here are using noise reduction on a regular basis on stuff like Hip Hop, Pop, & Rock? Or is it a rare thing for you in mastering?