14th April 2012
|
#1 | | Gear interested
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 15
Thread Starter | Plagin's to voiceover
Good afternoon. I newibe in voiceover work and would like to know what are good plugins most people used for this.Compressor, exciter, maximizer, limiter, deesser and more.I used RVox, Waves DeEsser, Softube CL - 1B, Izotope RX good too, Waves L2, but i want to know more.
|
| |
14th April 2012
|
#2 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2012 Location: NYC |
I'm not sure why you would use most of those plugins on VO work. Assuming you recorded properly, maybe just a compressor and EQ should be fine.
__________________
Jesse Flaitz - Production sound and audio post. Greater NYC area. http://pedanticsound.net
“A cable is a source of potential trouble connecting two other sources of potential trouble.”
|
| |
14th April 2012
|
#3 | | Gear addict
Joined: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA |
I've found myself simply using the Avid Channelstrip for VO, as it gives me all the processing I would ever really need to use.
|
| |
14th April 2012
|
#4 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,217
|
If you're doing vo and you want that aggressive vo sound try your favorite limiter and do some heavy gain reduction on it. Add EQ if you need it and you're there. If you have a UAD-2 card, adding the ATR plug at the end can give you a little more heft.
L.
|
| |
18th August 2012
|
#5 | | Gear interested
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 15
Thread Starter |
Some peoples in this topic say EQ and Compressor only, Can you recommended me good compressor for this. And one more question. If i have big dynamic range in voiceover, what i should do?? I mean i have big emotion somewhere in track, and i have no emotion when hero just talk. What helped me in this problems, Vocal Rider?? Or i need used manual automation?? Or i just need used compressor?? Yeap, i know, my qeustion like a newbies, but i want learn more in voiceover sphere.
|
| |
18th August 2012
|
#6 | | Lives for experience
Joined: Nov 2004 Location: minneapolis, mn |
Rather than worrying about which plugin works best for VO work, take the plugins you have and learn how to use them. Spend hours and hours figuring out what the controls do to the sound. Carefully listen to other VO's you like and compare your work critically to that. Then realize that you have a long way to go, and put in more time. Listen to how the sound changes when you make adjustment, analyse the sound with your ears and brain. Use the stock plugins that came with your DAW, or whatever else you already purchased, they are fine.
Buying the same car as the leading race car driver will not make you drive like him.
What's the best gas pedal for going 200 MPH?
|
| |
18th August 2012
|
#7 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2009 Location: The O.C. |
And don't forget, 95% of the sound is the voice talent.
|
| |
18th August 2012
|
#8 | | Gear interested
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 15
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by minister Buying the same car as the leading race car driver will not make you drive like him. | Not true. Only i know what i can. And if i buy car, and want driving like a pro, i go to training, trace, learn all time and all day theory and practice and asked another man's who too long driving, how to be will better. So what good pedal for 200 mhp?? Everytime and everyday my desire.
|
| |
18th August 2012
|
#9 | | Lives for experience
Joined: Nov 2004 Location: minneapolis, mn | Quote:
Originally Posted by Shikai Not true. Only i know what i can. And if i buy car, and want driving like a pro, i go to training, trace, learn all time and all day theory and practice and asked another man's who too long driving, how to be will better. So what good pedal for 200 mhp?? Everytime and everyday my desire. | You just made my point. It is the work you do, not the equipment.
|
| |
18th August 2012
|
#10 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2009 Location: London
Posts: 514
| Quote:
Originally Posted by minister Buying the same car as the leading race car driver will not make you drive like him.
What's the best gas pedal for going 200 MPH? | Actually that's what happens almost every time in Formula 1.
Klanghelm dc8c is a beast for vocal compression.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Gearslutz App
__________________ Carillon 4XT 6 core 24Gb Ram Cubase 32/5 Nuendo Wavelab
Windows 7 64
Quested S8r's |
| |
19th August 2012
|
#11 | | Gear interested
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 15
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by minister You just made my point. It is the work you do, not the equipment. | This is philosophy. If you don't know what i mean, read somebooks. Quote:
Originally Posted by wcb123 Actually that's what happens almost every time in Formula 1. | I love Formula 1, and watching her too long.
|
| |
19th August 2012
|
#12 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Provo, UT
Posts: 76
|
If you ever actually go to racing school, you see that the first thing they do is put you in an extremely fast Mustang and laugh at you as you get lapped by the instructors driving a Focus.
|
| |
19th August 2012
|
#13 | | Gear interested
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 15
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Smith If you ever actually go to racing school, you see that the first thing they do is put you in an extremely fast Mustang and laugh at you as you get lapped by the instructors driving a Focus. | Oh. So you mean you all laugh becouse i newibe and want know more?? Want be a better?? Now i see what people in here. Bad humans who lauch when newbie's asked some qeustions. But this is yours problems, i don't care asked in forum what i want.
|
| |
20th August 2012
|
#14 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2010 Location: Taiwan
Posts: 274
|
I believe Dan is just trying to reiterate the point that the equipment (or plugins in this case) don't matter. It's the skill that matters.
He wasn't laughing at you. Just using that part to make a point. Quote:
Originally Posted by Shikai Oh. So you mean you all laugh becouse i newibe and want know more?? Want be a better?? Now i see what people in here. Bad humans who lauch when newbie's asked some qeustions. But this is yours problems, i don't care asked in forum what i want. |
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using Gearslutz App
|
| |
20th August 2012
|
#15 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Wellington NZ
Posts: 172
|
You come in here and get upset, mostly because of language differences I suspect. Then you tell us you want to learn and it appears you haven't even done a search - This has been discussed numerous times.
|
| |
21st August 2012
|
#16 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Provo, UT
Posts: 76
| Thanks glenn Quote:
Originally Posted by glenn_jr I believe Dan is just trying to reiterate the point that the equipment (or plugins in this case) don't matter. It's the skill that matters.
He wasn't laughing at you. Just using that part to make a point.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using Gearslutz App | Thank-you glenn_jr, Exactly that. I wasn't laughing at you in your situation. I was just extending the analogy to emphasize the point being made. Honestly there are so many experienced pros that have posted mountains of information in this forum. I rarely start threads because before I get to it I find more than enough insights in previous postings. Good luck.
|
| |
21st August 2012
|
#17 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2012 Location: NYC |
How does one succeed in the entertainment business with such a thin skin...
|
| |
21st August 2012
|
#18 | | Gear addict
Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Hollywood, CA
Posts: 469
|
Minister, good point.
That being said. Talent is key, then mic placement and choice. After that one should have an EQ, Compressor and Limiter.
The built in tools with PT work well. Waves, Wave Arts, IZotope and Sony's plugs all work well too. But, to Minister's point, use the stuff you have, find shortcomings and then research solutions.
I like the Avid standard EQ very much, it's effective and works on all systems. I also like the RComp and L2 from Waves and the Massey L2007 Limiter from Massey.
Most importantly though, spend the time getting the room quiet, the mic placed right and the talent comfortable, most of the rest will fall into place.
Oh, and remember, VO generally runs dry, no reverb
__________________
NuanceTone.com
|
| |
21st August 2012
|
#19 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2004 Location: Finland
Posts: 3,956
|
Keep it simple, a decent condenser ld mic quite near in a decently quiet acoustics and background noise of any kind - just print it -and then use some compression and eq to tastes comparing to a reference as I can guess your listening might not be up to standars?
But then the artist will have to perform and trust you...
Matti
|
| | | |