Where to place Nugen VisLM in Nuendo for dialnorm readings?

[tom_lowe]

Originally Posted by Neole

I am using Dolby Media Meter 2 with nuendo for dolby dialnorm measurements. On another setup Im using Nugen VisLM-H for the same.

I have placed Dolby media meter on the master 5.1 out insert for a target dialnorm of 22 on the first setup.

What preset should I choose and where should I place Nugen VisLM and with what setting to target a dialnorm of 22 by dolby media meter standards?

why would you place it anywhere other than where you place DMM2? VisLM will give a slightly different reading if you were using Dial Intelligence in DMM2, if you weren't reading would be similar and you can set a custom target of -22LUFS (same as LKFS), or use the preset for your target I.e EBU R.128 or ATSC A/85

[Neole]

Sorry I was stupid with the question of course I would place it at the same place and thats where I have it placed. I was half asleep when I posted!

Right now I have selected the preset ITU-R BS.1770-2 on Nugen VisLM. Is this the closest to dialnorm or should I select another preset to get the reading closest to DMM2 with dial intelligence? My target spec is just 'dialnorm 22' (plus or minus 1) from the production house.

[Jesse Peterson]

The measurement algo's are a little different but -2 will be the closest. I would take some similar material that you know what the LEQ-a is and play it through your nugen meter, see what it says and calculate the offset.. hit or miss.

Is the spec for leq-a or LKFS? other?

[Neole]

Hi Jesse,
Thanks for the info.

Here is the latest specs sheet I have received. It says -

Must be mixed to a Dialogue Normalization level of -22dB (+/- 1 dB).

Audio dynamic range -
Speech :
Normal Peak (PPM) 5
Full Dynamic Range (PPM) 3-6

Audio dynamic range -
Music :
Normal Peak (PPM) 4.5
Full Dynamic Range (PPM) 2-6

PPM levels specified are -
3 : -28 dBFS
5 : -16dBFS
6 : -12dBFS

Dolby E Metadata Settings -
Dialogue Level -22dB
NOTE: Actual programme loudness (to be measured to ITU.BS-1770) must match the Dialogue Normalisation setting used.