Zynaptiq to introduce UNVEIL De-Reverberation & Signal Focusing Processor
Old 20th March 2012
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Zynaptiq to introduce UNVEIL De-Reverberation & Signal Focusing Processor

zynaptiq: unveil

this could become interesting if it sounds good and
is finally ported to aax.

What do you guys think?
I am really excited to run some
tests with the AU Demo on monday...

Seems to be different from existing tools that
do not work so well, if at all....
Old 20th March 2012
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Never say never and all that, but I'm highly suspect of any plug-in that promotes itself as a "De-Reverb" type program. Seems about as probable as a De-guitar plug-in for music production.
Old 20th March 2012
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That's why I am so excited to test it!
Let's see on Monday. I got tons of bad production dialog sound to test it on...

Edit:

something like a De-guitar Plugin is already invented. See Melodyne DNA.
The zynaptiq guys manged to do something like melodyne DNA in realtime
with their Pitchmap plugin and now it seems that this new technology stuff
works good on de-reverbing. As everything it will have
it´s limits but with this new stuff the limits have been pushed further....

It´s actually pretty exciting!
Hope it sounds usefull for post!
Old 20th March 2012
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At least it will be interesting. One of the creators is Mr. Bernsee, who also developed Prosoniq Timefactory and more.... so it's a pretty high-profile attempt.
Old 21st March 2012
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I'm very excited, considering the people behind it, but let's wait and see how useful is this thing on real roomy recordings. Maybe soon we will be matching the dialogue to the ADR, not the other way around!
Old 21st March 2012
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You would loose a lot when making everything sound dry and adding reverb later. But maybe it is good for creating a more consistant dialog track.... with an even higher dialog to adr ratio....
Old 21st March 2012
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I'm very excited, considering the people behind it, but let's wait and see how useful is this thing on real roomy recordings. Maybe soon we will be matching the dialogue to the ADR, not the other way around!
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Old 27th March 2012
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The demo version will be available later today, and I'll be making some videos here in the studio the next couple of days. For the time being, here's a video from the Messe:



There's an example that shows a field recording that is reverb only (PA recorded from miles away through a canyon), yet we can still get the signal to be closer and cleaner

Actually, I think I gotta de-verb that video (made with the on-board mic of the camera).
Old 27th March 2012
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Wow, that demonstration is crazy. Will have to listen to it properly at some point, but from that demo it seems insane.
Old 27th March 2012
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The demo version will be available later today, and I'll be making some videos here in the studio the next couple of days. For the time being, here's a video from the Messe:



There's an example that shows a field recording that is reverb only (PA recorded from miles away through a canyon), yet we can still get the signal to be closer and cleaner

Actually, I think I gotta de-verb that video (made with the on-board mic of the camera).
is this an AU only plug? I would hope for a VST and at some point an RTAS/AAX version.

Really good price point on this too!
Old 27th March 2012
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The demo version will be available later today, and I'll be making some videos here in the studio the next couple of days. For the time being, here's a video from the Messe:



There's an example that shows a field recording that is reverb only (PA recorded from miles away through a canyon), yet we can still get the signal to be closer and cleaner

Actually, I think I gotta de-verb that video (made with the on-board mic of the camera).
Denis,

I think without support for AAX, RTAS or at least VST it will be difficult to almost impossible to integrate the plugin into film specific workflows.

Or as an alternative a stand-alone app like Izotope RX?
Old 27th March 2012
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Hey...
they say VST and AAX Mac & PC will defenetly follow later this year.

But yes I would love to open it in protools right now. I´ll use
Ableton for the demo... (when it´s out!)
Old 28th March 2012
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This MUST be aax rtas tdm whatever. It must work on protools and have ilok
Old 28th March 2012
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It *will* be AAX, we're on the case :-)

As to iLok --- I think that's not going to happen. BUT our challenge-response system allows the user to have two machines activated at the same time (though I'm not sure whether you can *use* both at the same time), and you can manually de-activate a machine at any time to free up an activation. And you can re-activate that machine again, so you can move your activations around as much as you like, which means you get the flexibility of an iLok minus the potential of losing or breaking it.
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Old 28th March 2012
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Wow. Very interesting. Really.

R.
Old 28th March 2012
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If I buy the AU version now will that also include the AAX version when that's released?
Old 28th March 2012
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Windows please!!!
Another big vote for AAX/RTAS/TDM or VST here!
Looks incredible. Even if it helps me restore 1 out of 5 clips, I'm interested.
Old 28th March 2012
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If I buy the AU version now will that also include the AAX version when that's released?
Yes. We do not believe in different prices for different platforms, or in charging for the same thing twice. All bug-fixes, support for additional plug-in formats, OS compatibility updates etc will always be free.

Unless of course some unforeseen thing comes about, like a completely new OS architecture that requires starting from scratch (think OS9->OSX transition) etc....but even then, we'll *try* to make it a free update, or roll it in to a full-version number update that also adds new features to ease the pain.

So generally, we will only be charging for full version number updates that have new features....software people do eat
Old 28th March 2012
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Windows please!!!
Another big vote for AAX/RTAS/TDM or VST here!
Looks incredible. Even if it helps me restore 1 out of 5 clips, I'm interested.
I've been on the phone all day about VST/AAX Mac/Win. Stay tuned, we're on the case.
Old 28th March 2012
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I've been on the phone all day about VST/AAX Mac/Win. Stay tuned, we're on the case.
Hi dennis! I made a quick test using ableton yesterday... even with the too much annoying demo remembering pop up`s, your plug-in sounds promising...

I know you should not promise any timetable to AAX release, but... do you have anything you can put out? Like is it your top priority or do you have another`s developer issues above it?

Just asking, because I`m move your plug-ins to the top of my software list...
:-)

But first I would like to try it inside pro tools in a more realist work situation.

congratulations.
Ricardo
Old 28th March 2012
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Another +1 request for a Windows VST/AAX version.

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Old 31st March 2012
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even with the too much annoying demo remembering pop up`s, your plug-in sounds promising...
That should be fixed with the version 1.0.4 update -- it was actually a bug that would spawn nag-screens way more often than intended in some circumstances. We now display a nag once every three minutes, which i consider a healthy balance. I'm sure you can figure out the implications of a demo that doesn't expire and has full functionality

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I know you should not promise any timetable to AAX release, but... do you have anything you can put out? Like is it your top priority or do you have another`s developer issues above it?
Well, it's top priority, I'm afraid I can't say more at this point

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Just asking, because I`m move your plug-ins to the top of my software list...
:-)
That's great to hear

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But first I would like to try it inside pro tools in a more realist work situation.
Of course!

Best,
Denis
Old 31st March 2012
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Thanks Dennis. I will re-donwload it. Yes, 3 minutes is a good balance! For sure. Keep us posted.
Old 31st March 2012
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Will rtas/aax be released before promotional price ends?

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Old 1st April 2012
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Well... I hope so. If not...well let me just say I think there's no reason to favor AU users over VST or AAX users....
Old 1st April 2012
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I don't even work in post and I've got dozens of uses for this in pop/rock production and mixing. Can't wait for VST. Very clever, guys!

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Well... I hope so. If not...well let me just say I think there's no reason to favor AU users over VST or AAX users....
promo pricing on aax release would be nice. I'm sure you will inform us when its out
Old 2nd April 2012
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Would love for this to work! VST for sure, Windows standalone too if possible!

thanks

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Old 2nd April 2012
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demoing it now, this is mind blowing, superb quality, will be an incredible re mixing tool for acapellas.

Knobs very annoying, same as pitchmap, have to remember every time to grab them when the "handle" is or they jump wildly, and very hard to grab them precisely at their current position, in fact, impossible, every knob touch is a knob move unfortunately.

Nevertheless, it works, and well.
Old 2nd April 2012
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Sorry you don't like our "trackballs".

Think of them as faders, not potentiometers. They save space as opposed to regular faders, still give you a direct visual feedback on value with the colored "corona", allow directly clicking the target value for fast operation and no awkward circular mouse/hand movements are required. They do take some getting used to, however.

RE:AAX: We'll consider notifying the world when VST/AAX become available.....

Actually, we'll be shouting that out so loud you'll want us to stop

RE: Stand-Alone: Out of curiosity: what would you like in a stand-alone that the plug-in doesn't do?

Currently working on a bunch of videos BTW.

Best,
Denis
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