Why altiverb always sounds darker than space designer?
Old 26th December 2011
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Why altiverb always sounds darker than space designer?

Altiverb and space designer are both IR based reverb. Why altiverb sounds a little bit darker than space designer? Using space designer my orchestra sounds more vividly and live. Maybe I didn't do it right in altiverb?
Old 26th December 2011
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Originally Posted by rockman413 View Post
Altiverb and space designer are both IR based reverb. Why altiverb sounds a little bit darker than space designer? Using space designer my orchestra sounds more vividly and live. Maybe I didn't do it right in altiverb?
If you like Space designer, use it. Whatever works for you.
Altiverb is the best reverb when it comes to emulating real life spaces e.g. rooms, kitchens, car interiors, tunnels e.t.c. I cannot imagine doing my work in post without it.
However in music it is different. The one and the only rule in music is: if it sounds good, it sounds good. Nobody cares if reverb is too bright or compression is pumping, if the vocal is thin or the bass is distorting.
In your (music folks) language it should be kicking ass.
Its a whole another story in post.
Thus Altiverb is different and serves different goals. It's mainly designed to be natural, which is often perceived as dark by some people.
Same about mics BTW.
You may find Sennheiser MKH40/50/ 60 or even 80xx series sounding dark comparing to other ones. Nevertheless they are some of the most natural and flat sounding mics.

Also don't look at the graphics. There are many funky toys around these days. Try to work with em and listen first.
Also don't trust the user's story the vendors place on their web site.
For someone it works, for you it doesn't....this is what I started from. Didn't I?
Old 26th December 2011
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It may be what Audio Ease call the "sizzle" of algorithmic reverbs is added in Space Designer. the new brightness dial in Altiverb 7 may help.

Shame Pro Tools and certain other DAWs won't accept AUs enabling Space Designer to be used in post.
Old 27th December 2011
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Originally Posted by tom_lowe View Post
It may be what Audio Ease call the "sizzle" of algorithmic reverbs is added in Space Designer. the new brightness dial in Altiverb 7 may help.

Shame Pro Tools and certain other DAWs won't accept AUs enabling Space Designer to be used in post.
Where can we know there is algorithmic reverb added in space designer


And I always find that orchestra comes out of sd is louder than altiverb.
Old 16th February 2013
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Good finally someone sayed that..!

Space designer has much better IR's than Altiverb and that is the only important thing of a convolution Reverb. Ok, Altiverb has some plate ir's but that's all.

Check out the Rooms and Theaters and AB them.. Space Designer is very underated and Altiverb just hiped
Old 16th February 2013
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This may be a bit off topic, but I'm looking for some nice Impulse response libraries for post work. I know the best way is to just make some impulses on my own, but unfortunately that's not an option at the current moment. If anyone could direct me to some websites that'd be great!
Old 16th February 2013
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Old 16th February 2013
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Just what I was looking for! Cheers Soundboy! +1
Old 16th February 2013
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Space designer has much better IR's than Altiverb
Um.. No.
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