2nd January 2013
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#151 | | Gear maniac
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I use the Nugen ISL
so far no issues, sound pretty clean too. I put it on at the very end of my chain sometimes in addition to what I would normally use (ML4000 and the like) so it is there as a safety net only
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11th January 2013
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#152 | | Lives for gear
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I was thinking that it would be cool if FLUX utilitzed the now available UAD SDK to develop ELIXIR for UAD2... it would be nice to have extra horsepower to run it on Higher Resolution, 5 Stage.
(and no, I can't believe I'm advocating releasing a native plug for a hardware powered one!  )
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11th January 2013
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#153 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2006 Location: the Netherlands
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Originally Posted by superwack  I was thinking that it would be cool if FLUX utilitzed the now available UAD SDK to develop ELIXIR for UAD2... it would be nice to have extra horsepower to run it on Higher Resolution, 5 Stage.
(and no, I can't believe I'm advocating releasing a native plug for a hardware powered one! ) | Considering how much CPU this plugin uses, I doubt it would run a single instance on the UAD platform.
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12th January 2013
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#154 | | Lives for gear
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Because of the extreme latency and resource hoggishness of plugins like Elixir, i think the best way to use it is to use a conventional limiter during the mix that is set maybe a dB below the true peak spec, and then run Elixir on the print master afterwards as an audio suite process. I doubt very seriously that anyone would be able to detect any artifacts from this and it will insure that the mix conforms to delivery specs.
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13th January 2013
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#155 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2005 Location: San Francisco area
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Originally Posted by ggegan Because of the extreme latency and resource hoggishness of plugins like Elixir, i think the best way to use it is to use a conventional limiter during the mix that is set maybe a dB below the true peak spec, and then run Elixir on the print master afterwards as an audio suite process. I doubt very seriously that anyone would be able to detect any artifacts from this and it will insure that the mix conforms to delivery specs. | +1
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13th January 2013
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#156 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2005 Location: London, England | Quote:
Originally Posted by listentoit Alexey,
have a look at nugenaudio.com. Not only do they have a nice and simple loudness metering, they also introduced a "Loudness Management Batch processor" with a dedicated TruePeak Limiter recently.
cheers | Another vote for NuGen from me too - they have a superb tool called the ISL, and it comes in both 5.1 & stereo form, with all the bits you require.
Try the demo, and then be prepared to buy it - it works beautifully.
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13th January 2013
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#157 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2006 Location: rio de janeiro | Quote:
Originally Posted by neilwilkes Another vote for NuGen from me too - they have a superb tool called the ISL, and it comes in both 5.1 & stereo form, with all the bits you require.
Try the demo, and then be prepared to buy it - it works beautifully. | +100 for nugen ISL
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13th January 2013
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#158 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2003 Location: warsaw, poland
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Is it processor-heavy? More than conventional limiter?
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13th January 2013
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#159 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2007 Location: West Coast
Posts: 1,947
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Originally Posted by ggegan Because of the extreme latency and resource hoggishness of plugins like Elixir, i think the best way to use it is to use a conventional limiter during the mix that is set maybe a dB below the true peak spec, and then run Elixir on the print master afterwards as an audio suite process. I doubt very seriously that anyone would be able to detect any artifacts from this and it will insure that the mix conforms to delivery specs. | I tried this the other day with L2 and found it allowed almost 3 dB of overshoot! I had to set it at -5 to hit the -2 db TP spec.
As for my UAD2 idea - sadly you might be right about using too much CPU but I thought it was worth getting the idea out there in case it would be possible.
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13th January 2013
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#160 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by neilwilkes Another vote for NuGen from me too - they have a superb tool called the ISL, and it comes in both 5.1 & stereo form, with all the bits you require.
Try the demo, and then be prepared to buy it - it works beautifully. | Just as a point Elixir comes with 5.1 as well just like Nugen.
The Nugen works great but i thought it didn't sound as clean as the Elixir when I demoed them. However since its almost impossible to use Elixir at its higher/cleaner settings I'd vote for Nugen as well
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14th January 2013
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#161 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2008 Location: The Heart of Screenland
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I have not experienced overshoot when using Elixir in Audiosuite mode. I definitely get overshoot with a conventional limiter, but Elixir has eliminated the overshoot when I process the tracks after the fact.
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14th January 2013
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#162 | | Lives for gear
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29th January 2013
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#163 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Montreal
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Anybody tried the LIMITER 6 by Vlagd. It's free and has a ISP functions. Sound pretty good to my ears but I'd like to know if anybody uses it too?
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29th January 2013
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#164 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2003 Location: warsaw, poland
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Rtas?
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29th January 2013
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#165 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2006 Location: the Netherlands
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Flux just upgraded their Elixir True Peak Limiter (and a few others). (AU 32 & 64 bit | VST 32 & 64 bit | AAX Native/DSP) They say their new coding framework has made the plugin between 500% and 1000% more efficient (depending on host).
I'm curious to check out the demo when I have some time... Flux:: sound and picture development
Alistair
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30th January 2013
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#166 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2005 Location: San Francisco area
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I spent the day wrestling some mixes into a new spec--Elephant @ 8x did the trick for TP limiting--very precise--couldn't hear it working. Good deal for the $.
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30th January 2013
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#167 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Los Angeles |
Avid's new ProLimiter might do the trick, and it's AAX DSP as well.
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13th February 2013
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#168 | | Gear Head
Joined: Nov 2010
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FYI, I have Elixir and put it on a 5.1 mix bus for a feature I'm working on. The new v3 AAX version is definitely more efficient than v1. I was curious how Nugen's ISL compared with regard to CPU usage so I downloaded the demo. Elixir v3 took usage from 5% to 15% while ISL made it jump from 5% to 18%. Elixir wins.
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