Post-production question for Pro Tools users

[Gomez]

I was wondering how many fellow slutz are working with Digibeta and Pro Tools.

To be brief:

- Is it possible to digitize video and record the 4 tracks of audio from a digibeta simultaneously (in sync) into PT?

I have done it before using Soundscape with a DPS card, but have no idea if this is possible with Pro tools.

Anybody?

thanks a lot.

[chriscoleman]

Originally Posted by Gomez

- Is it possible to digitize video and record the 4 tracks of audio from a digibeta simultaneously (in sync) into PT?

If you're asking if PT alone can record video and audio off Digibeta - No, PT doesn't record video.

(EDIT: I said "PT alone" - you can record video into PT using an Avid Mojo AND Media Station|PT software (additional expense) - see title's post below)

But, if you're asking if you can use another program to digitize video while PT records the audio at the same time - Yes.

At the last post house I worked in, we did this all the time with an Aurora Fuse card and Adobe Premiere. I'm sure you could even do it with something simple like iMovie these days...you just need a video converter box.

[Gomez]

Thanks Chris.

I'm not very familiar with Post-production, so here goes a (possibly) silly question:

- If you use the Aurora card and a video app (such as premiere, final cut, etc) would you still be able to just hit play on the digibeta, record the 4 tracks of audio into PT and capture the video simultaneously - both in sync?

[chriscoleman]

Yes.

Start your video recording first, then switch over to PT.

Have PT in record-ready mode, chasing the Digibeta, and when you press play on the Digibeta deck, PT will drop into record when it locks up.

Make sure all your connections, clocking, and timecode are correct, too, but that sort of goes without saying...

[title]

Originally Posted by chriscoleman

If you're asking if PT alone can record video and audio off Digibeta - No, PT does record video.

But, if you're asking if you can use another program to digitize video while PT records the audio at the same time - Yes.

At the last post house I worked in, we did this all the time with an Aurora Fuse card and Adobe Premiere. I'm sure you could even do it with something simple like iMovie these days...you just need a video converter box.

with Pro Tools 6.9 or 7 you can record video to the timeline with an AVID MOJO, while recording audio to the timeline through your HD interface
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[title]

oh and a V10 AVoption does this as well. but me's no buin a v10.... my mojo rocks.

[chriscoleman]

Originally Posted by title

Not to be rude but chris is 100% wrong. perhaps you are on an older version of pro tools?

Well, maybe it's semantics, but I'm not anywhere near 100% wrong. I'm actually 100% right about the method I used every day...and yes, back in that studio they were stuck on PT5.x, so Mojo wasn't an option. In addition - even if you buy the Mojo (:::cough::: expensive), you still need to plunk down even more cash for Media Station|PT

Either way you do it, you'll end up recording audio and video at the same time, with the video ending up in PT.

It's just that with a non-Mojo solution, you're saving a bunch of money. The "cost" is that you'll have to import the video into the PT timeline (big deal, takes 10 seconds) and then sync it (again - big deal, takes 30 seconds given the video has TC windowburn).

[doug_hti]

Originally Posted by chriscoleman

Well, maybe it's semantics, but I'm not anywhere near 100% wrong. I'm actually 100% right about the method I used every day...and yes, back in that studio they were stuck on PT5.x, so Mojo wasn't an option.

Either way you do it, you'll end up recording audio and video at the same time, with the video ending up in PT.

It's just that with a non-Mojo solution, you're saving a bunch of money. The "cost" is that you'll have to import the video into the PT timeline (big deal, takes 10 seconds) and then sync it (again - big deal, takes 30 seconds given the video has TC windowburn).

The way Chris describes it is the way I do it as well, through premiere and a fuse card. Just make sure you choose a reasonable compression rate or you will have some issues with PT playing back picture, although pt7 has been really solid.

I'm usually having to load in audio from da-88s rather than recording into PT from digibeta at the same time.

The mojo setup sounds great, I look forward to trying that out sometime.

[chriscoleman]

Originally Posted by doug_hti

The way Chris describes it is the way I do it as well, through premiere and a fuse card. Just make sure you choose a reasonable compression rate

Yeah, you'll definitely have to experiment with different capture settings. If nothing else, just remember to turn off the audio capture in your video program.

I used to know the exact settings for Premiere, but it's been a couple years...

[title]

Originally Posted by chriscoleman

you still need to plunk down even [i]more[i] cash for Media Station|PT

not if you just need to capture video/audio from a deck.

that being said i did pluck down the cash for media station and am happy....

[title]

Originally Posted by chriscoleman

If you're asking if PT alone can record video and audio off Digibeta - No, PT doesn't record video.

(EDIT: I said "PT alone" - you can record video into PT using an Avid Mojo AND Media Station|PT software (additional expense) - see title's post below, but make sure to ignore the part about me being "100% wrong")

But, if you're asking if you can use another program to digitize video while PT records the audio at the same time - Yes.

At the last post house I worked in, we did this all the time with an Aurora Fuse card and Adobe Premiere. I'm sure you could even do it with something simple like iMovie these days...you just need a video converter box.

chris,
meant no disrespect. above retracted.....

[chriscoleman]

Originally Posted by title

not if you just need to capture video/audio from a deck.

Please explain. The way I understand the system, if you want to record video using PT, MediaStation|PT is required. Is this not the case?

Thanks for the retraction...no worries.

[title]

all good...


In pro tools 6.9 or 7 with your Avid Mojo or V10 connected you can create an Avid video track. You choose the video input (composit or S), put pro tools online and record! no media station required. its just like recording audio to the timeline! it records an mxf video file....

Currently Media station is required if you want to take a quicktime/avi/etc file and convert it to something that pro tools can play out mojo, basically turns it into and omf/aaf/mxf compatable file. hopefully digi will make it so that you can play quicktime out mojo without mediastation someday, then they will have something really fantastic, a box that can play both quicktime and avid media...

media station is also a big thing because currently in PT you can't import multipe quicktime movies or avid sequences into pro tools, so i'll import a bunch into media station and conform a new omf with the multiple clips and "export to pro tools" as a single session. also since it is an avid editor you can do simple edits/cuts/confrom.... works.