Video for mixing survey 4/11

[danijel]

Me, I've switched to onboard video last summer. I just run it off a separate drive.
EDIT: I play 720p, which is fine for me (my TV is 720p anyway) - tried 1080, but it doesn't run well.

[Kuba_Pietrzak]

I use separate Mac with Blackmagic Extreme HD and Avid's Video Satellite.

I can play full HD and I do not experience any problems with playback, even if the session is really complex in terms of track count, used plug-ins and large amount of automation.

regards,
Kuba

[Jesse Peterson]

I'm using a typical dual monitor set up with a Nvidida GTS450 gamer card. DVI to 60inch and DVI to 22 on a swing arm

I use the onboard video playback in nuendo and tell it to go full screen on the TV. So far so good.

I play larger vids from a separate drive

[Smallbudgetguru]

Video is onboard the mixing rig here (PT9 with CPTK, macpro 8 cores 6g of ram).

One screen for Pro tools and video out through PCIe via the BM intensity pro.

Which feeds the Epson 8350 projector with 106" perfed HD capable screen.

Using Prores 442 for feature length premix or "final" mix for festivals / dvd with long sessions are A-OK here.

Starting to hit the ram ceiling but thats a cheap upgrade

[soundfx]

Blackmagic Decklink extreme on the same Mac Pro Tools 9 runs on. huge Pro Res files are no problem at all. one display for PT, another for video with option to spit it out HD to an LCD. Thank God I don't have that horrid Avid Mojo anymore. What a stinker.

[Jfriah]

ATI Radeon 8500 card to secondary monitor/projector...

QuickTime (MJPEG-A / DVCPro) output from Pro Tools

Jeff

[philper]

So is the line of demarcation between what works as "onboard" and what requires a separate player/computer pretty much HD video? All forms of HD? I've only used pretty small video onboard, and am paranoid about bogging the computer w/ HD on larger projects, but I'd love to leave the outboard video box thing behind....

phil p

[Smallbudgetguru]

HD video works fine onboard in either reels or full video for me

[Nate Hoffman]

PT9 CPTK with Blackmagic Intensity Pro displaying 1080p or 720p ProRes Proxy from a separate internal video drive. Flawless playback even on feature film super sessions. 2008 3GHz 8 core Mac Pro with 16GB RAM.

[NReichman]

+1 BM Intensity Pro.

But the OP should read this, too:

Pro Tools Video Output Options Compendium - Avid Audio Forums

[cananball]

PT8 on Windows XP PC running Avid MOJO out to Panasonic CRT. All SD video, usually run DV or Photo JPEG but occasionally convert to MXF

[bduryea]

Nuendo playing ProRes files on a separate drive through a Decklink card.

[ggegan]

In my personal studio: Imported video out PCIe via Blackmagic Intensity Pro
At the large dub stages I work at: Either Video Satellite or Virtual VTR

[adogg4629]

We have a black magic card with PT video satellite, however I have another system running avid media composer 5.5 with a Mojo DX. Haven't done a comparison yet, but was wondering if anybody has played with the video satellite this way?

[mecaudio]

Not to dig this old forum up, but is anyone else using Mac Pro 8-core, HDX, PT HD10, with Blackmagic Decklink Extreme 3D for video play out. We are having some issues with the Video out PCIe. The video is either getting squashed and/or stretched. Tried everything with no results. Not sure if it is some of the encode settings for these proxy files. In Pro Tools they play find. When switched to play out to the BM card squish squash. Any advice would be helpful. We just installed three systems with this configuration and I am installing one more like it tomorrow. I would like to try to fix this sooner than later hopefully. Thanks

[brandoncross]

Originally Posted by Smallbudgetguru

Video is onboard the mixing rig here (PT9 with CPTK, macpro 8 cores 6g of ram).

One screen for Pro tools and video out through PCIe via the BM intensity pro.

Which feeds the Epson 8350 projector with 106" perfed HD capable screen.

Using Prores 442 for feature length premix or "final" mix for festivals / dvd with long sessions are A-OK here.

Starting to hit the ram ceiling but thats a cheap upgrade

I have the same projector in my studio. Do you ever see lines in the pic when a really white frame flashes by? I see this with 10bit uncompressed video and probably other videos but it's not as noticeable.

[Jamie Mac]

Originally Posted by mecaudio

Not to dig this old forum up, but is anyone else using Mac Pro 8-core, HDX, PT HD10, with Blackmagic Decklink Extreme 3D for video play out. We are having some issues with the Video out PCIe. The video is either getting squashed and/or stretched. Tried everything with no results. Not sure if it is some of the encode settings for these proxy files. In Pro Tools they play find. When switched to play out to the BM card squish squash. Any advice would be helpful. We just installed three systems with this configuration and I am installing one more like it tomorrow. I would like to try to fix this sooner than later hopefully. Thanks

This has happened to me as well on occasions, but haven't found what is causing it. Also, sometimes the BM card is outputting NTSC when the video is definitely PAL and everything is set to PAL... (also using PT10 HDX, mac pro, decklink)


To answer this old thread:

We stream huge HD XDCAM MXF files from an afp server in building across the road and use Neyrinck's 'MXF to protools' to make a quicktime ref of it and output it via a decklink SDI to a monitor.
We're also connected to the video editing's ISIS where we can share their video in protools.
And otherwise video is on another internal drive. HD or SD is no different.


We used to use a video satellite but it was far to much hassle when working on lots of small video's in one session. The system would give error's when loop durations were too small or too big, if you selected something outside the timeline of the video.. and then you had to go all the way over to the satellite to press enter to be able to continue to work...
With the video track inside pro tools I find it a lot easier.

[thierryd]

Originally Posted by mecaudio

Not to dig this old forum up, but is anyone else using Mac Pro 8-core, HDX, PT HD10, with Blackmagic Decklink Extreme 3D for video play out. We are having some issues with the Video out PCIe. The video is either getting squashed and/or stretched. Tried everything with no results. Not sure if it is some of the encode settings for these proxy files. In Pro Tools they play find. When switched to play out to the BM card squish squash. Any advice would be helpful. We just installed three systems with this configuration and I am installing one more like it tomorrow. I would like to try to fix this sooner than later hopefully. Thanks

with the BM cards it's important to have one single format in a PT session, or things become messy. So if you're running 720p, don't put a 1080i or SD file into the session's timeline (or even the clip list to be sure), because it might mess up the playback format (squash/stretch). Also depending on the monitors, you can run into problems with video not being exactly 1920 (with 1888 for example). And then there are of course lots of preference settings you can choose in the BM Extreme 3D control panel with conversion being turned on/off and options of 16:9, 14:9, 4:3, panoramic etc. This can all influence what you are seeing on the screen and the delay of the video signal, being different for different video formats (that you can compensate with the video sync offset in ProTools)...

Greetings,

Thierry

[mecaudio]

Thanks everyone. I figured out what my issue was. We use low res proxy video files so we don't drain system resources(ram, processing). This files are normally not a standard video resolution. BM does not support any video resolutions under 720x480. The old avid Mojo was able to handle it. On our new system the BM card does not know what to do with the lower resolution type files.

And to answer the thread we also have a Video satellite system that we mainly use for our long form work. Any short works like promos and small clips are loaded into Pro Tools on a video track outputting using the Blackmagic Decklink Extreme card.

[UnFraGile]

Originally Posted by Kuba_Pietrzak

I use separate Mac with Blackmagic Extreme HD and Avid's Video Satellite.
Kuba

Kuba are you talking of Avid Satellite LE or Avid Satellite with Avid Media Composer using final bins?

Does the Video Satellite (not the le) come with a cripple version of Avid Media composer to open the final bins from the editor? Or I need to buy the full version of Avid Media Composer and MOJO to monitor video out, because for what I understand MXF files cant be outputted from Black Magic card, it as to me some Avid cards. Right?

Regards,

[rfnoise]

Video Satellite IS Media Composer, not a separate app. It will directly open your editors bins and sequences. If your system has the same rendering capabilities as the editor's, you can play his sequences directly.

Sorry for jumping in ahead of Kuba

[UnFraGile]

Originally Posted by rfnoise

Video Satellite IS Media Composer, not a separate app. It will directly open your editors bins and sequences. If your system has the same rendering capabilities as the editor's, you can play his sequences directly.

Sorry for jumping in ahead of Kuba

Hi rfnoise

Thank you so much for the info, I thought that we need to buy the Video satellite and media composer, i was seeing Video satellite as "plugin" Like machine control.

Thank you for the info.

Regards,

Marco Bernardo