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Old 19th August 2010   #1
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noise reduction to bring out dialog suggestions

I'm mixing a scene shot in a busy kitchen where they are interviewing the chef and there's a ridiculous amount of noise ( plates, pot&pans...). They sent me a stereo file so everything is mashed together.
Short from reshooting, which is not possible...what are some of your suggestions to eliminate as much noise and bring out the the dialog ?

I've done the usual by
1-using various NR from Waves, Waves Arts, Sonic.
2-duplicate the track and eq out the noise as much as possible and blend it in with the original, also mess around with the phase.

Method 2 seems to work better but still not to my liking...suggestions
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Cedar? Or Subtitles....
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Subtitle. It's all the rage these days (I'm a Survivor addict and can't believe some of the stuff they ARE subtitling---perfectly clear to my ears).

And saves YOU some work and THEM some time and money on cleanup/fixing. (instead they spend it in titling)

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and I'd just try to USE eq, etc. rather than duplicate and then process, etc. Unless you're in a lav / boom situation with dual tracks, just eq the lines in question and

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p.s., then slap them with a fish for giving you 'mashed together stereo tracks'

thanks.


on a serious note: not sure what you're working with without hearing, but: have you looked at trying to clip out the most offending clinks and clanks and surgically time-stretch/fade the surrounding dialogue in order to eliminate 'subliminally' some of the offensive clanks? I do that a lot as a regular course of events.
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Thanks guys

I've heard a lot of crappy recording but this one is beyond repair ! i guess subtitle it is
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The 'spectral editor' in iZotope-Rx can do some serious surgery.
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Yes, yes it can. If you have the time to go in with your scalpel.

I spent an entire day removing bird chirps from a day-for-night scene.

NOT FUN.

But it was cheaper to pay me to do that than bring in two actors to ADR a scene because robins were already chirping at 4am...

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noise reduction to bring out dialog suggestions

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Originally Posted by RJHollins
The 'spectral editor' in iZotope-Rx can do some serious surgery.
Very long work but with great results
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