I'm wondering how to make country music

[AminNapil]

Hello, guys
I wanted to learn the basics to produce country music...
I know a little about it like: it based on pentatonic scale.
What should i do to produce it like professional??


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[Big Andy]

First off, I think you posted this in the wrong thread.

Second, Country music is based off a normal Diatonic scale. Normal meaning standard Modes. Ionian and Aeolian (Major and Minor). There is very rarely a key change in country music. Most songs today are a basic !, !V, V chord structure because let's face it, country is pop music with a little twang.

The same principles apply to producing all music. Know your instruments, Know when to use them and learn how to make a boring song shine with subtle changes when the listener feels like they know what is to happen next. BLAMO, you used a Borrowed Chord and blew their minds!

If you really like Country music, listen to more. Eventually, you won't need to ask how to make a song better, you'll just know. Also, listen to other forms of music; classical, punk, pop, rock, reggae, Samba (1/2 speed reggae), etc etc...

Using elements from other music in a well known type of song structure will give you the Zing your music needs.

Good Luck

[kk@jamsync.com]

I'm wondering how to make country music go away...

[AminNapil]

Many thanks for helping me, I appreciate it.
I didn't meant to post this topic in the wrong place, I noticed that after your reply, sorry bro


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[Kuba_Pietrzak]

Just have a look: AminNapil is from Cairo in Egypt, which is really far from country music both geographically and mentally...

Regards from Europe
Kuba

[Uncle Bob]

Originally Posted by kk@jamsync.com

I'm wondering how to make country music go away...

For the most part I can't stand recorded country music, but a Saturday afternoon with a really kickin' country band can be a lot of fun. The same goes for jazz and blues, except it should be a Friday night...

[charles maynes]

Originally Posted by kk@jamsync.com

I'm wondering how to make country music go away...

LOL Damn KK, your choice of Tennessee as a home makes me wonder about you.....

I am not much of a modern country fan myself, but I do like the old school stuff a bit.

[Etch-A-Sketch]

Originally Posted by AminNapil

Hello, guys
I wanted to learn the basics to produce country music...

Drink at least a 5th of "Old No.7" and chase it with a 30 pack of bud, eat brisket and grits, wear white Tshirts (black Tshirts if you want to be the "rebel") and jeans with cowboy boots and Stetson hats and a leather vest over the white T Shirt, drive an F150... THEN start listening to a lot of old bluegrass, americana folk and old country/western. Once you start to get a handle on that. Add in some of the 50's rock like Elvis and for a modern twist add in some 80's Bon Jovi, AC/DC, Cinderella, and Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Modern country is 80's hair rock reinvented with a fusion of bluegrass and country/western and a little rockabilly thrown in for good measure.

And finally, if you can't line dance to it, then it's about as useless as teats on a boar pig!

[jahtao]

My Dad says its "three chords and the truth" but then he's Canadian

[ButchP]

Originally Posted by kk@jamsync.com

I'm wondering how to make country music go away...

now that was worthy of a spit take!!!!....you're my kind of gal KK!!...

BP

[kk@jamsync.com]

Originally Posted by charles maynes

LOL Damn KK, your choice of Tennessee as a home makes me wonder about you.....

I am not much of a modern country fan myself, but I do like the old school stuff a bit.

The short answer: my family has been here since the 1700's and my ex-husband left when my twins were seven months old. Everyone I tried out as a nanny in Boston seemed like they came from the movie "Baby Boom" and life could be worse growing up than spending summers and weekends on the old family farm. So I cancelled a record deal and moved back here.

I had always wanted a studio on Music Row when I saw all the rich boys building them when I was a kid at Vandy. My parents were dead set against the music biz, so of course I wound up in Boston playing guitar in rock bands...the studio had to wait a few decades.

My first song that was played on WBCN was called "24 frames per second" back in the 70's, so I've been into click books and synchronization since then. It's just unfortunate that Nashville isn't really a film town, but my family wasn't from California, so I came back here. I've always disliked country music and wondered why all those country women took all that alcoholic abuse rather than simply going to Walmart and buying a backbone.

[GotGear?]

Not to derail this thread, but when you say "at Vandy", do you mean Vandyland, as in Vandenburg AFB?

I attended Logicon out there in the eighties for the Minuteman program.

[kk@jamsync.com]

Originally Posted by GotGear?

Not to derail this thread, but when you say "at Vandy", do you mean Vandyland, as in Vandenburg AFB?

I attended Logicon out there in the eighties for the Minuteman program.

Sorry...I'll definitely shut up now. Vanderbilt (it's a college in Nashville).

[kk@jamsync.com]

Originally Posted by ButchP

now that was worthy of a spit take!!!!....you're my kind of gal KK!!...

BP

Ha! That's absolutely not the reaction I get on Music Row!

[kk@jamsync.com]

Originally Posted by AminNapil

Hello, guys
I wanted to learn the basics to produce country music...
I know a little about it like: it based on pentatonic scale.
What should i do to produce it like professional??


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Seriously...you might try posting here: Mastering forum - Gearslutz.com

A lot of those people have to deal with country music every day and they would know where to send you. Otherwise you might want to pick up a subscription to Music Row Magazine.

Or read some of the features here: MusicRow.

If you want to make stuff that "has that Nashville sound" (and I'm not sure what that is these days), you basically have to come to town and get a break. Be careful what you wish for...

[GotGear?]

That Vandyland.

[kk@jamsync.com]

Originally Posted by GotGear?

That Vandyland.

Actually, this is the Vandyland I remember:

Vandyland, R.I.P. | Make and Buy | NashvillePost.com: Nashville Business News + Nashville Political News

[ggegan]

I'm a jazz player, but I think that country gets a bad rap. Bad country is horrible, but there are some great classics in the country genre that I would put up against anything in the American Songbook. Unfortunately I generally go back a number of years to songs Like "Crazy", but I've also heard some very cool songs from later years as well. I just hate it when country music becomes a cliche fest, which actually happens in all genres, but it's usually just a lot more blatant in bad country. Still, a great song is a great song regardless of the genre.

[api2500]

Originally Posted by ggegan

I'm a jazz player, but I think that country gets a bad rap. Bad country is horrible, but there are some great classics in the country genre that I would put up against anything in the American Songbook. Unfortunately I generally go back a number of years to songs Like "Crazy", but I've also heard some very cool songs from later years as well. I just hate it when country music becomes a cliche fest, which actually happens in all genres, but it's usually just a lot more blatant in bad country. Still, a great song is a great song regardless of the genre.

List some examples? I have an open mind with music, but I haven't heard a lot.

[sameal]

well first your dog has too die......

[ButchP]

Originally Posted by kk@jamsync.com

Ha! That's absolutely not the reaction I get on Music Row!

maybe Music Row should buy a sense of humor from Wal Mart

BP

[sameal]

i got a country music joke.....

[kk@jamsync.com]

Originally Posted by ggegan

I'm a jazz player, but I think that country gets a bad rap. Bad country is horrible, but there are some great classics in the country genre that I would put up against anything in the American Songbook. Unfortunately I generally go back a number of years to songs Like "Crazy", but I've also heard some very cool songs from later years as well. I just hate it when country music becomes a cliche fest, which actually happens in all genres, but it's usually just a lot more blatant in bad country. Still, a great song is a great song regardless of the genre.

Yes, a great song is a great song. You know what was weird recently? Seeing all those early reports about Chelsea Clinton's wedding and noting that they referred to "Sinatra's 'Just the Way You Look Tonight'". It was only later that some of them corrected it to "Jerome Kern's 'Just the Way You Look Tonight'".

There was a time when even society reporters knew the difference...

[ButchP]

Originally Posted by ggegan

I'm a jazz player, but I think that country gets a bad rap. Bad country is horrible, but there are some great classics in the country genre that I would put up against anything in the American Songbook. Unfortunately I generally go back a number of years to songs Like "Crazy", but I've also heard some very cool songs from later years as well. I just hate it when country music becomes a cliche fest, which actually happens in all genres, but it's usually just a lot more blatant in bad country. Still, a great song is a great song regardless of the genre.

I agree with you(I'm So Lonesome is iconic!) however it gets pretty thin very quick.To me its the "Music City" home of the greatest songwriters on the planet moniker that cracks my whip.

Can the Craig Wisemans or Jeffrey Steeles honestly even be mentioned in the same breath as Lennon and MCartney or Bacharach and David and the many more iconic songwriters that aren't country songwriters?

I don't mean to be anachronistic but where are the new Jimmy Rodgers,Hanks, Hags,Lefty ,Johhny Cash,Willies???

The best thing to come out of Nashville in recent years as an honest writer/artist/perfomer was a 16 year old girl who don't sings very well... Taylor Swift.She has almost single handedly kept country music on the map the past few years and made country (even though it's more pop than country)relevant to music listeners under 25.

IMO there is a reason for the general derision amongst musicians and songwriters for country music and tain't about hillbilly's and dogs dieing ....Its about mediocrity.

That's what happens when the writer pool is mostly made up of middle age men who's motivation is getting together for a writers date between 1-3pm to write a hitsong!!! boy !! ...hell I'm a mercenary but my hours are much more flexiable!!

Granted the "formula" has worked before (Tin Pan alley Brill,Motown) and produced some truly classic pieces of music however something smells funny in Brentwood.Perhaps the faery dust has been sprinkled too sparsley and now NEW country songs sound like aborted Bon Jovi outakes from 84 with a fiddle and a twangy singer singing about their home town.

I apologize for my rant to all the aspiring New country songwriters...best of luck...

BP

[kk@jamsync.com]

Originally Posted by ButchP

The best thing to come out of Nashville in recent years as an honest writer/artist/perfomer was a 16 year old girl who don't sings very well... Taylor Swift...

BP

I agree...she's definitely a good lyricist. And she's lucky that her family had enough money to keep her out of shark-infested waters.

[Big Andy]

I didn't want to admit my hatred for Country music as the first reply on this post. Thank God KK was number 2!

Gary and a few others are spot on about "Western" music. Patsy Cline, The Man in Black, Hank Williams to name the biggest names from my Grandmas 8 track player are musical GOLD! That is 3 minutes of awesome.

[AminNapil]

Well guys,
Many thanks for your advices, I'm just a beginner in music production so I'm trying to do what I feel...I love disco music, Rock, Jazz, Latin and I just wanted to explore more genres of music, So that I posted this topic
I appreciate your advices, Thanks
Best regards,
Amin Nabil Mohammed

[minister]

A lot of bending 2 up to 3.

If it's country swing, don't swing too hard, it's mostly white people after all............................. (Ray Charles's forays were ok, but not my fave of his.)

I like the old country stuff too, but I love the first 2 Robbie Fulks rekkids; not really a country rekkid, but Nashville by Bill Frisell -- I'd listen to ANYTHING with Jerry Douglas on it, K.D. Lang, and EVERYTHING by one of my top 3 favorite guitarists, Chet Atkins.

Seriously, this stuff KILLS me:

[kk@jamsync.com]

Chet was a nice guy...a true gentleman. He and Bill Porter used to come to AES meetings once in a while and tell great stories about their trials and travails with RCA New York.

[AminNapil]

Originally Posted by minister

A lot of bending 2 up to 3.

If it's country swing, don't swing too hard, it's mostly white people after all............................. (Ray Charles's forays were ok, but not my fave of his.)

I like the old country stuff too, but I love the first 2 Robbie Fulks rekkids; not really a country rekkid, but Nashville by Bill Frisell -- I'd listen to ANYTHING with Jerry Douglas on it, K.D. Lang, and EVERYTHING by one of my top 3 favorite guitarists, Chet Atkins.

Seriously, this stuff KILLS me:

Thanks for sharing, I appreciate it

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