Neumann shotguns

HermanP · 6th August 2010

Just wondering.
Am I the only one who's not a big fan of the Neumann shotguns for dialogue?
For recording effects I think they are really good. Lots of detail etc.
Over here in the Netherlands a lot of production sound mixers use them.
When it comes to mixing dialogue pre-dubs and especially matching ADR, I think they always sound a bit unfocussed. (and then I do not mean bad boom-operating)
They tend to pick up a lot ambience and reflections.
Quit good for documentary-films but less good for fiction IMO. Especially if you compare them to the mkh416 or the cs3e.
Any thoughts?

jseelye02 · 6th August 2010

I'm not either! I have a KMR 81 that I always find to be TOO bright and over-the-top. I always go back to my Sennheiser. That's not to say the 81 doesn't come in handy sometimes, but overall I don't have as much luck with it...

philper · 6th August 2010

I have a KMR82 that I used for many years and it served me very well. It sounds fine on dialog, but doesn't get a lot of use in favor of a Sanken CS3e, which has more reach, less side and rear pickup, is much smaller and much lighter. But I keep the Neumann as a 2nd shotgun.....

Philip Perkins

Airon · 7th August 2010

Yeah, picks up a lot more side and rear than many of the others I've used.

Love it for fx, and if I can control the environment well enough for dialogue as well. When a mic picks up this much high end, and you need to get rid of some noise with an EQ in the 6-12k range, then this mic is great too.

Very smooth too. Requires a little less work on focusing on the talent. Anyone moves around a bit on ADR, this has done better for me.

6th August 2010	#1
HermanP Gear interested Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 17 Thread Starter	Neumann shotguns Just wondering. Am I the only one who's not a big fan of the Neumann shotguns for dialogue? For recording effects I think they are really good. Lots of detail etc. Over here in the Netherlands a lot of production sound mixers use them. When it comes to mixing dialogue pre-dubs and especially matching ADR, I think they always sound a bit unfocussed. (and then I do not mean bad boom-operating) They tend to pick up a lot ambience and reflections. Quit good for documentary-films but less good for fiction IMO. Especially if you compare them to the mkh416 or the cs3e. Any thoughts? __________________ Herman Pieete http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0682984/

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6th August 2010	#2
jseelye02 Gear nut Joined: Jan 2009 Location: New York, NY Posts: 88	I'm not either! I have a KMR 81 that I always find to be TOO bright and over-the-top. I always go back to my Sennheiser. That's not to say the 81 doesn't come in handy sometimes, but overall I don't have as much luck with it...

6th August 2010	#3
philper Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2005 Location: San Francisco area Posts: 2,422	I have a KMR82 that I used for many years and it served me very well. It sounds fine on dialog, but doesn't get a lot of use in favor of a Sanken CS3e, which has more reach, less side and rear pickup, is much smaller and much lighter. But I keep the Neumann as a 2nd shotgun..... Philip Perkins

7th August 2010	#4
Airon Gear maniac Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 280	Yeah, picks up a lot more side and rear than many of the others I've used. Love it for fx, and if I can control the environment well enough for dialogue as well. When a mic picks up this much high end, and you need to get rid of some noise with an EQ in the 6-12k range, then this mic is great too. Very smooth too. Requires a little less work on focusing on the talent. Anyone moves around a bit on ADR, this has done better for me.