Dual-purpose dub room?

jason kanter · 15th November 2009, 06:39 AM

Just wondering if anyone has a Dolby approved room that they use to record in as well as mix? I'm designing a 20x15 room and it seems to me that the 12' in front of mix position would make a great foley stage if I can keep the noise floor down in the room. Since I'll most likely be the one tracking as well as performing, isolation from the control room isn't really necessary.

Does anybody else work in this same capacity? Just wondering what steps in room design were taken to make for a good mix room while allowing for a decent recording environment.

I apologize for the similar thread I have running in the Studio Building forum but I really wanted to find out how many dub mix engineers and sound designers are working like this.

ruy · 15th November 2009, 07:52 AM

i'm not so sure about foley, but i've recorded some great sounding adr in mix stages...

BVoss · 15th November 2009, 08:31 AM

No. Hire a real foley mixer and foley artists.

Jack of all trades ...

georgia · 15th November 2009, 09:52 AM

I've recorded ADR, Foley, VO, even a guru group from Japan, and some overdubs from music.... if the room is acoustically nice and you don't have machine noise... Consider it just another space to work. For all these it's not just about the room, it's about the talent required to do it right.

cheers
geo

danijel · 15th November 2009, 09:52 AM

It's doable sound-wise, the only problem would be dust, dirt and debris.

TVPostSound · 15th November 2009, 05:54 PM

Also the car fender rattling during those deep sub moments!!

ggegan · 15th November 2009, 07:36 PM

The problem with recording foley on a dub stage is that it generates a lot of dust which does not play nice with consoles. Also, the different surfaces and props can create acoustic problems and weird resonances and rattles.

Like Ruy said, ADR is fine.

JSt0rm · 16th November 2009, 05:42 AM

I've seen cloth tracks being done on a dubstage but yeah dirty pits on the dubstage would be crazy

jason kanter · 16th November 2009, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danijel

It's doable sound-wise, the only problem would be dust, dirt and debris.

Ha. Good point. Didn't even consider that. I'll have to rig some kind of protective curtain for messier sessions.

georgia · 16th November 2009, 04:07 PM

Good point!!

cheers
geo

Rick Sanchez · 16th November 2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jason kanter

Ha. Good point. Didn't even consider that. I'll have to rig some kind of protective curtain for messier sessions.

If you use any dirt pits, there is no curtain that will keep the dust down. You could do hand props, carpet wood, tile, cement, but anything with dust would be a disaster to the equipment.

jason kanter · 17th November 2009, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Sanchez

If you use any dirt pits, there is no curtain that will keep the dust down. You could do hand props, carpet wood, tile, cement, but anything with dust would be a disaster to the equipment.

True. I guess there's still plenty I can do foley wise sans dirt.

15th November 2009, 06:39 AM	#1
jason kanter Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 77	Dual-purpose dub room? Just wondering if anyone has a Dolby approved room that they use to record in as well as mix? I'm designing a 20x15 room and it seems to me that the 12' in front of mix position would make a great foley stage if I can keep the noise floor down in the room. Since I'll most likely be the one tracking as well as performing, isolation from the control room isn't really necessary. Does anybody else work in this same capacity? Just wondering what steps in room design were taken to make for a good mix room while allowing for a decent recording environment. I apologize for the similar thread I have running in the Studio Building forum but I really wanted to find out how many dub mix engineers and sound designers are working like this. __________________ Jason Kanter NYC -End of line.

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ruy Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: NY/DF Posts: 129	i'm not so sure about foley, but i've recorded some great sounding adr in mix stages... __________________ www.ruygarcia.com

15th November 2009, 09:52 AM	#4
georgia Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY NY Posts: 845	I've recorded ADR, Foley, VO, even a guru group from Japan, and some overdubs from music.... if the room is acoustically nice and you don't have machine noise... Consider it just another space to work. For all these it's not just about the room, it's about the talent required to do it right. cheers geo __________________ ms georgia hilton mpse cas NY NY http://www.hiltonmm.com Reel http://reelladies.ning.com/profiles/...georgia+hilton Studio www.1linemedia.com Partial Credits www.imdb.com/name/nm0385255/resume When I am laid in earth, may my wrongs create no trouble in thy breast. Remember me, but ah, forget my fate. - Dido and Aeneas,* ARIA*

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danijel Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Posts: 997	It's doable sound-wise, the only problem would be dust, dirt and debris. __________________ Danijel Milosevic M/S is NOT mono compatible In fact, when collapsed to mono, S is entirely lost, and the recording sounds completely different from the original, stereo version. Honestly, M/S is only "Maybe Stereo".

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TVPostSound Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Brussels but now Burbank Posts: 780	Also the car fender rattling during those deep sub moments!! __________________ IMDB Five by Five Sound Now mixing "Kell On Earth" for Bravo. Upcoming: Top Chef Masters, Top Chef, Top Chef Just Deserts, Dance Your Ass Off, and Work Of Art. All Prime time slots

15th November 2009, 08:31 AM	#3
BVoss Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 83	No. Hire a real foley mixer and foley artists. Jack of all trades ...

15th November 2009, 07:36 PM	#7
ggegan Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The Heart of Screenland Posts: 673	The problem with recording foley on a dub stage is that it generates a lot of dust which does not play nice with consoles. Also, the different surfaces and props can create acoustic problems and weird resonances and rattles. Like Ruy said, ADR is fine. __________________ Gary Gegan Re-recording mixer http://homepage.mac.com/ggegan/

16th November 2009, 05:42 AM	#8
JSt0rm Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 455	I've seen cloth tracks being done on a dubstage but yeah dirty pits on the dubstage would be crazy

16th November 2009, 04:07 PM	#10
georgia Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY NY Posts: 845	Good point!! cheers geo __________________ ms georgia hilton mpse cas NY NY http://www.hiltonmm.com Reel http://reelladies.ning.com/profiles/...georgia+hilton Studio www.1linemedia.com Partial Credits www.imdb.com/name/nm0385255/resume When I am laid in earth, may my wrongs create no trouble in thy breast. Remember me, but ah, forget my fate. - Dido and Aeneas,* ARIA*

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