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Old 24th October 2009   #1
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"Drag Me To Hell " on BluRay

I was asked what Feature I did the Home Theater Mix on the JBL 6328 with the JBL 6312P Subwoofer.
It was "Drag Me To Hell" . We mixed the Theatrical,and then did the"Home Theater Mix" both at "The Dub Stage" .

I have gotten over 2 DOZEN great reviews on the mix like these:

Browsing Search Results for drag me to hell movie // BlogCatalog


Drag Me to Hell Blu-ray Review


Widescreen Review Webzine | Blu-ray Review | Drag Me To Hell


Blu-ray Review: Drag Me to Hell | High-Def Digest

Drag Me To Hell Blu-ray - Alison Lohman

Drag Me to Hell Blu-ray Review with D-BOX | TheHDRoom

Drag Me To Hell - BD Review at DVDfile.com - Page 2

Review: ‘Drag Me To Hell’ - Film School Rejects

Check it out on BluRay.
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HAHA, this guy realized you didn't tweak the mix:

When I saw this movie (several times) in the theater this summer, I mused, "This is going to be the movie that tests the power of Blu-ray sound." (I talk to myself a lot, huh?) 'Drag Me to Hell' had such an aggressive, wildly wonderful surround mix in its theatrical run that I really doubted it could be replicated on the small screen, but you know what? The impossible has been realized. This audio mix is just as good as it was in the theater.

Seriously, Marti, can you please go into some detail on what were the main things you did in mixing the home version?

Kudos, and this is probably the time for me to get the Blu-ray drive
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Now I have to rent it Marti. Kudos on the Kudos
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Congrats. Well done, Marti & Chris.
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Yeah, those are nice reviews Marti....

You did the theatrical mix AND the blu-ray? Is this typical, or do other stages/engineers usually do the blu-ray mix?

Did you do them both on the same stage, with the same monitors?

Overall, what are the kinds of changes one would need to make (to the session) to make it sound identical to the theater mix. In other words, just to give us at home the same experience as in theaters, what are some of the fundamental changes sonically?
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Yeah, those are nice reviews Marti....

You did the theatrical mix AND the blu-ray? Is this typical, or do other stages/engineers usually do the blu-ray mix?

Did you do them both on the same stage, with the same monitors?

Overall, what are the kinds of changes one would need to make (to the session) to make it sound identical to the theater mix. In other words, just to give us at home the same experience as in theaters, what are some of the fundamental changes sonically?
Yes I did BOTH Mixes at "The Dub Stage". The Theatrical Mix on the Large JBL Theatrical speakers behind the screen. (Go to
facility - the dub stage for room pictures
A few weeks later we set up 5 JBL LSR6328’s and 1 JBL LSR6312 subwoofer and proceeded to do the "Home Theater Mix".
We set it up per the Sony Pictures Home Theater Mix specs where
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• L, C and R speakers should be in front of console, 7-8 feet from listening position, 6-8” above the meter bridge, tilted down to the mix position. Placement should be optimized to accommodate a proper sonic image with the screen, set up in an arc.
As a guide, a line drawn from the mix position through the L and R nearfields should hit the L and R screen horns
• *The subwoofer should be placed on the floor, just in front of the console or in front of the speakers. Exact placement will depend on room acoustics, standing wave effects, etc.
• **The surround placement is 110 degrees from center and approximately 10-12 feet apart. This should be adjusted to accommodate a proper image depending on the room dimensions. The surrounds should be close in to the mix position.

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These days it is not common to even get a chance to do a "Home Theater Mix".

Sam Raimi insisted we do it and since we mixed the theatrical and it was in Pro Tools it gave us the opportunity to tweak anything that was needed because of the "Home Theater " environment.
Very little was done just a little rebalancing. Bob Murowski the Picture Editor Supervised the mix that Chris Jacobson and I did.
We were all very happy with the way it turned out.
Please listen to it and then I'll be happy to answer some questions.
Thank you for your interest.
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Congratulations Marti and Chris! It's nice to see you getting the recognition that you deserve. Well done.
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Did you rebalance the mix using the DMEs or did you go any further back?

Did you run the mix through a dolby downmix simmulation to check for LFE fold-back problems you might need to compensate for?

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Congratulations Marti and Chris! It's nice to see you getting the recognition that you deserve. Well done.
And THANK YOU JOHN for the GREAT FOLEY!
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Did you rebalance the mix using the DMEs or did you go any further back?

Did you run the mix through a dolby downmix simmulation to check for LFE fold-back problems you might need to compensate for?

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We mixed it in Pro Tools (The ONLY WAY I MIX) and therefor used the Virtual mix to do the "Home Theater mix" . We didn't use the DME at all.

Yes we checked the Dolby downmix.
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I really enjoyed it. Didn't even think about the mix, must be a good thing!!
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Congratulations on the attention and the excellent reviews, Marti.

(I see you satisfied the home theater reviewers with your amount of surround use. Yes, I know this is how it played in the theater, but I am often saddened by this ill-informed "requirement" by home theater DVD release reviewers......)
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(I see you satisfied the home theater reviewers with your amount of surround use. Yes, I know this is how it played in the theater, but I am often saddened by this ill-informed "requirement" by home theater DVD release reviewers......)

How else can they justify the cost (and aesthetics) of those rear speakers to their significant others?
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I never visit this side of the forum, but I happened to see the title on the front page.

Drag Me To Hell was a great fun, and the mix was top notch. Well done!
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We set it up per the Sony Pictures Home Theater Mix specs
Dear Dr.,

Is there a link to this document online anywhere?

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dr sound

How long did your work for theater take? And for BluRay?

How powerful of a system was used in PT and what were the specs - Did it max out voice count? I would imagine, since even my shorter works do - then again I split out everything amongst tracks.

At The Dub Stage - it looks like it's a one-engineer room, so were you given the session files for the stems that were prepped elsewhere?



On the work I've done for cinematic video games, each client has different specs in terms of what's allowed to be in what channel. For instance, dialogue reverb outside of the center channel etc...

In theater work, or BluRay/DVD, is this true or is there one set of guidelines only?

Recently I've been piping 5.1 mixes out of a DVD player into PT to listen to them all and get an idea for comparative levels as a starting point.

Thanks Doc!
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Is there a link to this document online anywhere?

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dr sound

How long did your work for theater take? And for BluRay?

How powerful of a system was used in PT and what were the specs - Did it max out voice count? I would imagine, since even my shorter works do - then again I split out everything amongst tracks.

At The Dub Stage - it looks like it's a one-engineer room, so were you given the session files for the stems that were prepped elsewhere?



On the work I've done for cinematic video games, each client has different specs in terms of what's allowed to be in what channel. For instance, dialogue reverb outside of the center channel etc...

In theater work, or BluRay/DVD, is this true or is there one set of guidelines only?

Recently I've been piping 5.1 mixes out of a DVD player into PT to listen to them all and get an idea for comparative levels as a starting point.

Thanks Doc!
DynaForte,
You need to look closer, it is a 2 man room.
You also need to read up, I said previously that we mixed the Theatrical Mix in the same room and then did the DVD/BluRay mix .We mixed the BluRay from the "Virtual Mix", no stems!
I do Dialog and Music and Chris Jacobson does FX, Sound Design, Foley and Backrounds.
We have 2 Control 24's each using a HD6 Acell on each side with the latest 8 core Macs.
We use Satellite link and Pro Tools 8. Picture is projected via a previous generation Mac with a Decklink Extreme HD card .
We had 189 tracks going on Chris's side and I had around 120 . Everything went smooth.
It took around 4 days to do all the different delivery requirements.
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Going to rent it this weekend.

A little OT but anyone know the vo for the Drag Me to Hell trailer? I'm hearing him quite a bit lately and I like him. He did the vo for The Fourth Kind too I believe. I love that trailer..my favorite this year.
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Marti,

I didn't rent the BluRay just the standard DVD. All I can say is WOW!

You ROCK!
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