movies where theatrical mix = DVD mix

[jahtao]

Wes Anderson Criterion website states:

"The soundtrack was mastered at 24-bit from the original magnetic tracks"

How do we know they didn't turn everything up to bring the loudest peak up to 0dBFS? This would of course not affect the balance and purity of Wes / Criterion's vision so might have happened.

Please could someone with a dub stage check this out for me before I decide to part with my hard earned ca$h. Pleeeeeeease!!

Matt

[charles maynes]

I think using a dub stage to verify the levels on $20 DVD is a bit crazy, stage time is usually worth hundreds of dollars an hour, and even if it sounds "correct" there is really no way of knowing without the original materials (that the DVD was made from) being avaialble for comparison....

[danijel]

Originally Posted by jahtao

"The soundtrack was mastered at 24-bit from the original magnetic tracks"

That quote is from "The Life Aquatic" promo-page (The Criterion Collection: The Life Aquatic <br>with Steve Zissou by Wes Anderson), so it must be an error, because I doubt they made magnetic masters in 2004.

[charles maynes]

Originally Posted by danijel

That quote is from "The Life Aquatic" promo-page (The Criterion Collection: The Life Aquatic <br>with Steve Zissou by Wes Anderson), so it must be an error, because I doubt they made magnetic masters in 2004.

I dont think that is a good assumption.....

[danijel]

Originally Posted by charles maynes

I dont think that is a good assumption.....

Why? Unless they mean the Dolby MO disc by 'original magnetic tracks'?
Or do they make magnetic tape masters in Hollywood?

[Berolzheimer]

Originally Posted by Jesse Peterson

There's a walk n talk called "the good night". Based on some of the HF junk I hear in the dialog, I don't think this has been altered from the theater mix at all.

Hey, I shot the Foley for that picture. Hadn't heard anything about it since.

[Berolzheimer]

Originally Posted by danijel

That quote is from "The Life Aquatic" promo-page (The Criterion Collection: The Life Aquatic <br>with Steve Zissou by Wes Anderson), so it must be an error, because I doubt they made magnetic masters in 2004.

Warner Hollywood, stage D, I think we re-recorded to Protools but we might very well have print mastered to fullcoat as well. Kind of a rough sounding mix, as per Wes's taste.

[charles maynes]

Originally Posted by danijel

Why? Unless they mean the Dolby MO disc by 'original magnetic tracks'?
Or do they make magnetic tape masters in Hollywood?

I think they are still a part of the deliverables- usually six track mag.

[jahtao]

Originally Posted by charles maynes

I think using a dub stage to verify the levels on $20 DVD is a bit crazy, stage time is usually worth hundreds of dollars an hour, and even if it sounds "correct" there is really no way of knowing without the original materials (that the DVD was made from) being avaialble for comparison....

Yup. It's a completely unrealistic ask! : )

[ggegan]

Originally Posted by charles maynes

I think they are still a part of the deliverables- usually six track mag.

I haven't recorded to mag in at least 4 or 5 years, even for print masters, though there may have been a mag copy made in transfer to satisfy some silly delivery requirement drawn up by someone who is a bit out of the loop. I think those requests are pretty much history now.

I kind of miss the tape compression and head bumps, though not the Dolby noise reduction. SR could get really squirrelly after the first or second generation. Does anyone here use any of the tape simulation plugins when rerecording FX? Do they work?

[musikwerks]

all I could do was compress the whole thing by about 3db, put a limiter at -10dbfs and deliver a new stereo file to them. I felt dirty, but the client was happy.

You limited to -10 for DVD? That's only a broadcast spec. I would get as close to 0db as possible for DVD release.

[MixinMonkey]

Originally Posted by ggegan

I haven't recorded to mag in at least 4 or 5 years, even for print masters, though there may have been a mag copy made in transfer to satisfy some silly delivery requirement drawn up by someone who is a bit out of the loop. I think those requests are pretty much history now.

I agree, mag is hardly used anymore except for archival purposes.

Granted, mag is a solid medium.. you could literally drop the reels off of a speeding truck and it'll play back. And I do miss the warmth/depth of SR.

[kind]

David Lynch's Inland Empire has both near-field and far?-field mixes on the DVD.
If that's any help.

From: David Lynch's INLAND EMPIRE : DVD Talk Review of the DVD Video

The Audio: A buffet of aural options is included, with Lynch providing a pair of Dolby
Digital 5.1tracks, one tailored for near-field monitor playback and one better
suited for far-field monitor playback. What that means is, basically, near-field
monitors are considered to be more compact speakers and are closer to the
listener, allowing them to hear less &quot;reflected&quot; sound while far-field monitors
are larger, farther away and rely more on &quot;reflected&quot; sound. For this review,
I sampled the far-field Dolby Digital 5.1 mix and found it to be quite bass-heavy,
often very quiet during passages of dialogue and skimpy on surround effects.
A Dolby 2.0 stereo track is also included, as are optional French subtitles (but, of course, no optional English subtitles).

[danijel]

Originally Posted by kind

The Audio: A buffet of aural options is included, with Lynch providing a pair of Dolby Digital 5.1tracks, one tailored for near-field monitor playback and one better
suited for far-field monitor playback.

The fact that Lynch has a dub-stage in his house is funny enough, but this is hilarious! GO LYNCH! Next thing, he'll be joining Gearslutz

[quadraphonics]

I know that David Lynch isn't a big fan of surround information(to him, it detracts from the story up on the screen), so these mixes might not give you what you are looking for in terms of 'average' balance, levels, etc...

Randall

Originally Posted by kind

David Lynch's Inland Empire has both near-field and far?-field mixes on the DVD.
If that's any help.

From: David Lynch's INLAND EMPIRE : DVD Talk Review of the DVD Video

The Audio: A buffet of aural options is included, with Lynch providing a pair of Dolby
Digital 5.1tracks, one tailored for near-field monitor playback and one better
suited for far-field monitor playback. What that means is, basically, near-field
monitors are considered to be more compact speakers and are closer to the
listener, allowing them to hear less &quot;reflected&quot; sound while far-field monitors
are larger, farther away and rely more on &quot;reflected&quot; sound. For this review,
I sampled the far-field Dolby Digital 5.1 mix and found it to be quite bass-heavy,
often very quiet during passages of dialogue and skimpy on surround effects.
A Dolby 2.0 stereo track is also included, as are optional French subtitles (but, of course, no optional English subtitles).