A good book on Dialogue editing!

[marclop]

Amazing book, indeed! Learned a lot by reading it. Great help

[Neil Whippey]

Just ordered it, thanks for the tip

[superpetter]

just ordered it, looking forward to reading it

[Jesse Peterson]

Originally Posted by Rick Sanchez

I wish every film student was required to know this material.

I'm working on that, one young film maker at a time. pays off big when they show up at my door with their next project. makes my job so much easier. great info here, if you don't have it, get it.

[leeg1970]

What a excellent book. Thank you John Purcell.

[Jfriah]

I just told John yesterday that I'm working on a student production right now and the location recordist is a 4th year film student who is also doing the dia edit. He asked me if I knew any good books on dia editing; I recommended John's book based on what I've heard from others. He says "hey, I'm reading one called Dialogue Editing right now.....yeah! By John Purcell! It is great! Easy to read and a technical subject; really well-written."

There you go. There is hope.

Jeff
(I'll have to thumb through it while he's here!)

[livelearnplay]

Great, guys. I think I need one in the next few days.

[ggegan]

Originally Posted by Jfriah

I just told John yesterday that I'm working on a student production right now and the location recordist is a 4th year film student who is also doing the dia edit. He asked me if I knew any good books on dia editing; I recommended John's book based on what I've heard from others. He says "hey, I'm reading one called Dialogue Editing right now.....yeah! By John Purcell! It is great! Easy to read and a technical subject; really well-written."

There you go. There is hope.

Jeff
(I'll have to thumb through it while he's here!)

I think if every location mixer spent some time both editing dialog and mixing it on a rerecording stage, that the quality of production sound would improve enormously. A few months on an ADR stage would probably be pretty effective as well, especially if he/she saw how well it goes over with most directors on the dub stage..

I am still astounded by the fact that in all the years that I have been mixing (well over a hundred feature films and dozens of television projects) I can count on one hand, with fingers to spare, the number of location mixers who have come to the dub stage to find out how well their tracks worked.

I have more contact with visual effects people and DPs than I have with location sound mixers.

Your student is likely to learn quite a bit by covering more than one base.

BTW, having mixed location sound myself early in my film career, I do understand that their needs for delivering good sound are generally given short shrift by directors who often are more concerned about visuals, even though the script is embodied in the sound track just as much as it is in the camera work, if not more so.

Go figure.

[Lipflap]

Originally Posted by ggegan

I think if every location mixer spent some time both editing dialog and mixing it on a rerecording stage, that the quality of production sound would improve enormously.

Similarly, I think that every dialogue editor should try to spend some time on shoots. This would undoubtedly increase the editor's compassion for the production sound team, but it would also shed some light on how tracks are recorded. Out of necessity, most of us are super-specialized, but there's much to be learned from those both up- and downstream in the workflow.

[pmx]

not only a great book for editors, but for every engineer that wants to get a good view of how movie sound works. chapter 2 should be made into a sticky

[danijel]

Bumping this thread for some great news

John Purcell had been 'secretly' producing videos about his beloved art of dialogue editing - I stumbled upon them the other day, and (with John's permission) here are the links:

YouTube - Dialogue Editing for Motion Pictures Lesson 1
YouTube - Dialogue Editing for Motion Pictures - Lesson 2
YouTube - Dialogue Editing for Motion Pictures Lesson 3
YouTube - Dialogue Editing for Motion Pictures Lesson 4
YouTube - Dialogue Editing for Motion Pictures Lesson 5
YouTube - Dialogue Editing for Motion Pictures Lesson 6

More or less, they cover the book material in a condensed incarnation.
What follows is more important - the next few videos will contain the on-screen footage of actual dialogue editing, and will be (I suppose) more like a complement to the book.

[UnderTow]

I just watched them all. Great stuff! I'm looking forward to the next episodes. And yes I have the book. Also great! thumbsup

Alistair

[ThisIsSka]

Awesome series of videos! Definitely going to grab the book when I can.

[bonnybilly]

I concur, great videos and a few laughs too. Looking forward to the next set.

[JimGeek]

I'm still waiting for my Amazon order

[jackdanny]

Great links, thanks! Ordered my book for Christmas as a treat to me too Looking forward to any more videos in the meantime! (slightly scared by the female voice over lady though :/ )

[misscc803]

Great. I stumbled across those videos a couple of days ago. I will definitely be ordering the book.


Nicole

[danijel]

John, congratulations! - I've just noticed 'Footnote' has been nominated for the foreign-language Oscar. If I'm not mistaken, this is a third one for you in just a couple of years, so, given the statistical improbability, I'd like to say it's just not fair to the rest of us, 'foreign'-language sound editors hahaha

EDIT: oops, just noticed there's a dedicated Academy Awards thread.......

[Lipflap]

Originally Posted by danijel

John, congratulations! - I've just noticed 'Footnote' has been nominated for the foreign-language Oscar. If I'm not mistaken, this is a third one for you in just a couple of years, so, given the statistical improbability, I'd like to say it's just not fair to the rest of us, 'foreign'-language sound editors hahaha

EDIT: oops, just noticed there's a dedicated Academy Awards thread.......

Thanks Danijel. This is Joseph Cedar's second Oscar nomination (the other one was BEAUFORT). He's a very good director, the film is unlike any I've ever seen, it won best script at Cannes, and it will make people think.

While I was on this film I really enjoyed getting up early and racing to my cutting room. Joseph is a true pleasure to work with and I wish him success.