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| Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Waves C4 Vs Wave Arts MultiDynamics Hey there, I would like to buy one of these two plug-ins and I was wondering if you guys had experience with them. Which one sounds better to your ears? |
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| Gear nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sweden
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| Waves C4 is better. Don't know what else to say.
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Woking, UK
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| | #4 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006
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| Yea, the Waves is better (unfortunately). But I love the WaveArts Trackplug channel strip plugin. Good eq, great compressor, and the best software gate I have personally used. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005
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| I vote WaveArts. Philip Perkins |
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| Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: out in the dirt.
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| I have not used the WaveArts plugin, but C1 and C4 are REALLY REALLY GOOD. I hate the fact that my Waves boycott prevents me from using them... But oh how I miss them... Charles Maynes |
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| Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Thank you so much guys Both seem like great plug-ins. Waves plug-ins are quality no doubt but I'm still unsure about this. Philip you are the only reason I haven't bought the C4 yet. Did you use both and think WaveArts is the better choice? I trust your professional opinion :-) |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: minneapolis, mn
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| I use the WaveArts and i like it a lot. years ago in OS9 i used the C4. sonically, the C4 may be better. but WUP kills it for me. I am a happy WA user. as with anything, you really have to work hard to learn how to use it. |
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| Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Thank you minister :-) |
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| | #10 |
| Gear Head Join Date: Feb 2006
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| I agree wholeheartedly with all of this! |
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| | #11 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis MO
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| I used to work at another studio that used the C4 all the time. After getting my own rig up and going I had to buy the Wave Arts plugs simply because they were a cheap option. Im so insanely glad I did. I think the Multidynamics sounds much better than the C4. I may be one of the few crazies that thinks this but IMHO wave arts is some of the best plugs for the money you can get, besides Massey of course. |
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| Lives for gear | For the price, the wave arts is a better buy. Sonically, it isn't as nice but not by much. |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Central Point, Oregon
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| Has anybody tried the Dynamizer? It's gotten great reviews and looks like a viable alternative to other multiband processors. |
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| | #14 |
| Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Thanks for your help everybody :-) |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dublin
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| i've have the C4 and have tried the WA MultiDyn and i found C4 to be more intuitive when just diving straight in. i prefer the interface too. as far as sound goes, i never tried WA long enough though C4 sounds great and the crossover's are phase compensated. i consider the waves gold bundle to be one of the best value for money bundles out there. i'm debating whether to go for the platinum bundle |
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| Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas
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| Quote:
BUT.... it is not a multiband compressor. It's a single-band compressor (compressing all frequencies together). It's like a multi-stage compressor, compressing the soft parts differently than the loud parts.
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| | #17 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: montserrat w.i.
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| another vote for wave arts.. when i was looking for some mastering software a sales man at sam ash nyc convince me to buy the wave arts pack, im glad i did they are very skimpy on cpu power you can put the trackplug plugin on every track so sweat.. ![]() |
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| Gear nut | I recently went back and forth with both plugs for the better part of two weeks. If you're after clean/vintage options, the WA Dynamics 5 has them, however, the clean settings, relative to the C4, were less transparent. By transparent, I could tell the WA Dynamics 5 plug was being used. I'm using JBL6300 series monitors and was A/Bing both plugs side. The C4 is a little more intuitive as it's close to the DigiDesign plugs (or they're close to the Waves) but the WA plugs are actually quicker to get into once you get use to their workflow. I ended up going with McDSP MC2000. It compared favorably with the Dynamics 5 and the C4, although it's user interface required a considerably different learning curve, in the end the compressor modeling sealed the deal. Like the WA plug McDSP doesn't have the WUP.
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| | #19 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2007
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| SONALKSIS CQ1 |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: El Lay
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| We've discussed this here before, I find c4 to be phasey- smeary sounding. Don't just listen for what it's doing to the dynamics, listen to the overall effect it's having on the signal. LMB is much better but it also has high latency & is processor hungry. Don't have any experience with the Wave Arts stuff.
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| Mac Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Amsterdam
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| I demo'ed this plugin. It's really nice! Is a good de-esser as well Only with the C4 you can get a little more creative, using it as an EQ as well. The Sonalksis does not have any make up gains per band. To gain that same functionality you'd maybe need both the Sonalksis CQ1 and the DQ1 and then you'd have even more functionality than with the C4. These plugs do take some time to master though. I have tried the demo's of the WaveArts plugins in the past and found them to sound a little sterile, but certainly usuable! |
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| Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2007
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| dollar for dB -> Wave Arts wins hands down. Ive heard Waves at other studios and I dont think there is a vast difference. But even if one is beter than the other. for 500 bucks WA mastering bundle is the way to go. glad i did B |
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| | #23 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Carolina Guy
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| I've had more personal satisfaction from my previous WaveArts purchases. The sonic differences between WA and Waves are minimal and in some cases the advantage goes to WA (noise reduction). Go WaveArts! |
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| | #24 |
| Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Paris
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| I used much the C4 and now the Multidynamics ... i prefere Wave arts... more bands, more simple, more intuitive and more obvious. IMO ... |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: GERMANY:FRANKFURT-WIESBADEN
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| waves arts got a good denoiser and gate but at multidynamics i like c4 if any better comes out for less the price i would sale my waves licences but now there is no contender yed for me ! patrick |
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| Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2007
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| | #27 |
| Gear maniac Join Date: May 2005
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| I know you are asking particularly about C4 and Wavearts, but Id give McDsp a look, I dont love the C2000 4 band compressor , but I do like the ML4000, It has the compressor adn the limiter, Just an idea. The C4 is great anyway my vote would go for the waves if its choosing one or the other Best of luck
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| | #28 |
| Lives for gear | The way it sounds and the way the control operates the plug in..Waves is much better to me!
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| | #29 |
| Gear interested Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bucuresti, Romania
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| IQ4gui - Dynamic EQ platinumears free plugins I've tried it as a multiband expander. Works just fine. |
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| | #30 |
| Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: LA, USA
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| The only reason I use ANY of the waves plug-ins is becasue, as a freelance mixer, no matter what place I go to, they will have the waves bundle. So, all I need is that and a CEDAR, and I knwo I can mix my dialog and make it sound good. And the studio can recall the mix later, should they need to do a fix, and i'm not available. They won't have to worry about me having brought in a custom plug-in on my own iLok. My list of plug-ins are Q10, C4, EQ3, L1 Rcomp, Rveb, Waves De-Esser and then whatever surround verb they have on the computer. Revibe, 360 etc. |
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