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| Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles
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| Not exactly. Most instruments can have a transient. The sharp beginning of a picked bass note, for example, is its "transient". |
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| Thanks guys A big thank you from the non-native english speakers in the world. We have definetly been involved in confusing what a premix and a stem is. I'll try to make sure that we here on after conform to the US standard to avoid creating additional misunderstandings when discussing things like this between countries. OR Perhaps you guys could adapt to the swedish terminology for a final mix... "SLUT MIX" Isn't that just quite a bit cooler sounding than printmaster/final mix? :-) |
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| Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles
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| I kind of hate to admit it, but I'm starting to like "Pre-mix" to describe each music element. It may not be universally used, but it does indeed make sense. I found myself throwing it in there on a recent final to see if it gave me the hives. Charles, am I drinkin' your Kool-Aid? |
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the premix/predub terminology is still vexing- though all that is needed is that one is source tracks, and the other is "mixed" tracks. my biggest issue is the use of the term "stems", which I hold somewhat sacred... cm
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I agree that using the term "stem" alone is unacceptable as it is more likely to cause confusion than to transfer the intended information. However, if you say "predub," a host of music guys will be just as confused or upset. I've worked both sides of the hall, so perhaps I'm more open to terms that satisfy both points of view. I'd rather use a term that is easily understood by all than to try to convince half the people that they are wrong. Of course, it could just be that I'm insane... you can never discount that possibility... Now if we could just get people to stop saying room tone for backgrounds! | |
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| Foley Mixer or Foley Recordist Hi, I work in Argentina and my main occupation is recording Foley in our stage. I do it directly to Pro Tools, then edit it and premix it and send it to my clients. Usually I am not present at the re-recording stage. How would you properly name the person who takes care of that task? Foley Recordist or Foley Mixer? Thanks in advance. It'll help me build my resume correctly. Regards, TK.
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at least here it would tend not to. I would say that the session would qualify as a "cut" or edited bit of work.
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| | #39 |
| Gear interested Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Argentina
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| Hi Charles, Thanks for your answer. Of course, it's not "mixing" what I do, and the recorgings we submit to the supervising editor is always mixed by someone else. My precise question is how do you name the person who records Foley?. It seems somehow to me that you may call him "Foley recordist", but on the other hand the person who takes care of Production Sound Recording is called "Production Sound Mixer" so hence my doubt. Of course, the Prod Sound Mixer may do some actual mixing..... Please, excuse me if it's a silly question, I couldn't figure it out myself. Regards, TK.
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Just like an ADR mixer... cm
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| hi hi charles.. i want to ask you that If an amplifier is "balanced", does that just mean it has XLR connections? |
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but from my experience an amplifier which has "Balanced" inputs will usually have XLR jacks, and perhaps TRS input jacks....
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| You can also have an unbalanced unit with XLR +4 dBu I/O. But yes, if you see three conductors (XLR or TRS - Tip, Ring, Sleeve) it usually is balanced. Basically you have an inverting and non inverting line to reject common mode noise. To try to simplify it conceptually, add an extra line to the normal hot and cold, and reverse the polarity on that third line so that any noise picked up along the line during transmission is "out of phase" (more accurately reversed polarity) when the signal gets put back at the receiving end, and the noise gets cancelled. |
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